Gay, Anti-Gay, now go make your movie! (Shrek 2 under fire)

[NDman]

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/story.html?id=f9c1a5b7-9583-4952-9a2b-ecab6e754e96

Seriously, this is getting way out of hand. Movies, TV, commercials, ANYTHING, get attacked left right centre no matter which way they swing, or even just try to be funny. Not saying that this complaint by the anti-gay activists on Shrek 2 is sad, but just commenting on the overall state of the trend. You can't win.

Seems like there's always at least one of the gay, anti-gay, anti-violent, anti-racism groups will be attacking. That's just sad

[Rometiklan]

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/story.html?id=f9c1a5b7-9583-4952-9a2b-ecab6e754e96

Seriously, this is getting way out of hand. Movies, TV, commercials, ANYTHING, get attacked left right centre no matter which way they swing, or even just try to be funny. Not saying that this complaint by the anti-gay activists on Shrek 2 is sad, but just commenting on the overall state of the trend. You can't win.

Seems like there's always at least one of the gay, anti-gay, anti-violent, anti-racism groups will be attacking. That's just sad

I agree. I have no idea why these religious or political watchdogs don't just leave this stuff alone, and go target something that's really deserving of their attention. A cross-dressing bartender...hardly worthy of getting our underwear (or panties) in a bunch. Being politically correct is getting to be such a drag (no pun intended). :D

[Samk]

Nothing puts more Bee's in my bonnet then people who dictate the lives of others. I enjoyed yesterdays Simpsons, you could see that most of what the charecters were saying was the writers own views. I really hate how when people get middle aged they believe they have to parrent everyone else. Ahhh nothing makes me want to swear more!

[chickenbones]

Seriously when I first heard about this whole shrek 2 I thought it's getting too ridiculous. I don't remember ANYTHING that was even remotely gay in that movie.

These people are just insecure about their own sexualality. so they open fire on everything that has anything to do with nothing.

Seen a report on CTV I think, this person(religious) was saying how sunday's simpsons was distasteful, how children could be watching at 8pm. First of all any kid who's old enough to enjoy the simpsons would be able to enjoy the humour in that episode. Secondly, I believe the six o'clock news showed some candid moments of numerous real life men and women of the same sex kissing.

[Amourek]

Yes, Shrek 2 is obviously a subversive attempt to turn our children into cross- dressers. Hell, with the attention span of children these days, I doubt they even remember it...

[pgcanred]

I don't see what your objection is to be honest. They are primarily warning people from their own community about some of the content of Shrek 2 and the like, and suggesting that they shouldn't be supported. That is their opinion and what is wrong with that?

[canook]

Nothing puts more Bee's in my bonnet then people who dictate the lives of others. I enjoyed yesterdays Simpsons, you could see that most of what the charecters were saying was the writers own views. I really hate how when people get middle aged they believe they have to parrent everyone else. Ahhh nothing makes me want to swear more!

And what, precisely, are you saying with this post? You would like to dictate that others not say things you disagree with. :) You can't win.

[NDman]

I don't see what your objection is to be honest. They are primarily warning people from their own community about some of the content of Shrek 2 and the like, and suggesting that they shouldn't be supported. That is their opinion and what is wrong with that?

No, I'm not objecting their opinion per se. But I don't think they should be so opinionated to brand the production team for bringing a "subtle sexual messages". COuld all be just good fun to have a weird cross-dressed guy in a whacky Orge world with a talking cat. :confused:

[mlc2000]

COuld all be just good fun to have a weird cross-dressed guy in a whacky Orge world with a talking cat. :confused:


Well said.
These are the same folks that would have you believe cold-blooded killers are created from too much exposure to Wile E. Coyote.

It would seem kids aren't allowed to have an imagination anymore.

[Webslinger]

Right up there with Harry Potter book burning . . .

[tinlunlau]

www.capalert.com

lol!
i remember reading their review on Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. they were offended cuz the characters are "walking on water". lol! wait till they review "Kung Fu Hustle". they'll be nagging on and on about the beheadings, the non-stop violence and a man with gold rings around his arm.

[pgcanred]

No, I'm not objecting their opinion per se.
So you say.
But I don't think they should be so opinionated to brand the production team for bringing a "subtle sexual messages". COuld all be just good fun to have a weird cross-dressed guy in a whacky Orge world with a talking cat. :confused:
But then you are objecting to their opinion with this statement. You might think it all harmless fun, but they do not. So all your objection reduces to is that their opinion does not coincide with yours. They have every right to critique the movie and its makers.

[NDman]

But then you are objecting to their opinion with this statement. You might think it all harmless fun, but they do not. So all your objection reduces to is that their opinion does not coincide with yours. They have every right to critique the movie and its makers.

That's potentially false accusation. If there was no intention there from the production team, then the activists were over-analyzing and wrongly accusing them for bringing such message

[d_jedi]

Well, you can't deny that the media nowadays is definately endorsing a homosexual lifestyle (as for Shrek2.. their claims are unfounded).

My 4 year old cousin told me when she grows up, she wants to be a lesbian. WTF?! I doubt she even really knows what a lesbian is..

[Mystix]

anybody seen last sunday's simpsons? :lol:

[chickenbones]

Well, you can't deny that the media nowadays is definately endorsing a homosexual lifestyle (as for Shrek2.. their claims are unfounded).

My 4 year old cousin told me when she grows up, she wants to be a lesbian. WTF?! I doubt she even really knows what a lesbian is..


I bet you she heard that from the news, not a cartoon show.

[blackhawk]

Its turned into "if you're not with me, you're against me" political argument and they're telling people through the media that everyone has to pick a side.

The media and entertainment industry are pretty much mid to far left so no secret there which side they have to take.

Honestly, how many people define themselves by their sexual preferance?


Hi! I'm straight/gay, how are you?

In canada the argument and lobby groups have a strictly political purpose.


There's a requirement to make homosexuality an identifiable minority for support and protection/benefits under the law. To be a minority you need to have more than a preferance to be identifiable.

The world, both human and animal, have had homosexuality forever , its a biological thing. A dead end for procreation but still an important contributor to society in general. Everyone has talents to contribute to a society and although procreation isn't the only one, its a very important one and part of the definition of a lifeform. The same as the slight bias towards male births. And dont forget, the 'equipment' is still there and functional, just not the inclination.

The PM is such an ass, trying to stir up people and make them pick a side.
He's just interested in the politics.

[confused]

Christians.. and they're make-belief world and fairy tale stories

[canook]

Christians.. and they're make-belief world and fairy tale stories

As a Christian, I find that offensive.

As an RFD'er, I find it out of place, bigoted, disrespectful, and unhelpful in promoting understanding between people.

Do you really feel that promoting hate furthers this conversation somehow? Do you honestly believe that what one particular group says speaks for everyone who professes faith?

Incidentally, I loved Shrek 2 and thought the "Ugly Stepsister" bartender was hilarious.

[mlc2000]

Hey man, I'm a Christian but my skin's a little thicker than yours.

I know that much of what we 'believe' is a collection of parables, with morals attached. Moses didn't part the red sea and Noah didn't have room on his ark for dinosaurs.

Think of the 10 Commandments as The Catholic Church's version of a Mission Statement. Its very similar in many regards to many other religions.
Don't steal, don't kill, don't treat people like sh*t.

In the name of religion, more people die every day around this world than any disease.

"As an RFD'er, I find it out of place, bigoted, disrespectful, and unhelpful in promoting understanding between people."

Sounds like sound like some thing Jackie Chiles would say
http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures/cards/card_jackie_f.gif


Its Red Flag Deals. Not Red Flag Church.

(here come the flamewars!)



As a Christian, I find that offensive.

As an RFD'er, I find it out of place, bigoted, disrespectful, and unhelpful in promoting understanding between people.

Do you really feel that promoting hate furthers this conversation somehow? Do you honestly believe that what one particular group says speaks for everyone who professes faith?

Incidentally, I loved Shrek 2 and thought the "Ugly Stepsister" bartender was hilarious.

[canook]

Hey man, I'm a Christian but my skin's a little thicker than yours.

Ok, maybe I overreacted a little, but the post was out of line. If people are going to understand each other, we can't run around making broad accusations and bigotted statements.

I know that much of what we 'believe' is a collection of parables, with morals attached. Moses didn't part the red sea and Noah didn't have room on his ark for dinosaurs.

No, you believe that what you 'believe' isn't real. The question of literal vs. metaphorical is a big one, and there's room for discussion even among Christians.

Think of the 10 Commandments as The Catholic Church's version of a Mission Statement. Its very similar in many regards to many other religions.
Don't steal, don't kill, don't treat people like sh*t.

Whoops... I think Judaism beat Catholicism to the Ten Commandments. :)

In the name of religion, more people die every day around this world than any disease.

What kind of statement is that? There's no way you could find stats to back that up.

That's almost like saying it accomplishes more to slag religion on RFD than it does to send food to third-world countries.

Sounds like sound like some thing Jackie Chiles would say
http://www.seinfeld-fan.net/pictures/cards/card_jackie_f.gif

As much as I like Jackie Chiles and admire his spirited defense of Kramer's rights, I don't think it takes a Jackie Chiles to see that hate speech is hate speech and it's ugly no matter who it's directed at.


Its Red Flag Deals. Not Red Flag Church.
Where did I suggest people need to agree with me? Who in this thread is demonizing those who disagree? It's not the Christians. All I ask is that, if you disagree with something someone says, blame the person, don't slap a label on them and blame everyone else who fits that label. That never helps anyone.

(here come the flamewars!)I hope not!