Fs Benq 200 Dvd+r $59 Restocked!

[eunit]

36 now....

[Drift]

Are these DVD's any good.

Where would they be in a 5 star scale (1-poor 5- excellent)

[temo]

Are these DVD's any good.

Where would they be in a 5 star scale (1-poor 5- excellent)

A lot could depend on the writing strategy of your burner. My Benq burns these discs at 8x with very high quality (Benq burners in general are excellent for burning +r discs). Other burners may prove to be more problematic. I'd probably rate them as 3 for indeterminate.

Videohelp.com (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=1374#comments) has some comments on this media. But still, for 30 cents a disc it's hard to go wrong.

[Gdog]

A lot could depend on the writing strategy of your burner. My Benq burns these discs at 8x with very high quality (Benq burners in general are excellent for burning +r discs). Other burners may prove to be more problematic. I'd probably rate them as 3 for indeterminate.

Videohelp.com (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=1374#comments) has some comments on this media. But still, for 30 cents a disc it's hard to go wrong.

Ditto. For 30 cents each, it's a steal. My BenQ burner burns 4X + media at 8x...no problems whatsoever!

[testing]

It is sold out again. Too bad i miss it.

[Xtremist]

Ditto. For 30 cents each, it's a steal. My BenQ burner burns 4X + media at 8x...no problems whatsoever!
Is the media code manufacturer for these DAXON? I ordered the -R's versus the +R's hoping to get SONY media.

Also, someone in the FS Boxing Day thread said that in-store, FS was selling 8x +R/-R BenQ 200 packs (instead of the 4x) for the $59 price. Has anyone confirmed if they're still doing that? Anyone happen to have media codes for the 8x variants that FS is selling? Thanks.

[gyozaman]

I posted this in the Mitsumi thread as well. Bought 200 pack BenQ for $59.99 in-store. It is the 8X DVD-R BenQ's but my BenQ 822A burner with the newest firmware only recognizes it as follows :

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY08D1
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0C
2x Write Strategy field 1 12 A8 88 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 16
4x Write Strategy field 1 0A 0E 09 04
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 06 0C 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 08
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 97 88 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 B7 9B B8 83 00 30
4x Write Strategy field 6 0F FF D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

[Duo64]

i bought 200 benq dvd-r 8x for the 60 bux and it works fine with my new benq dw1620 (at 8x, havent tried higher or lower speeds)...can somebody please give a detailed explanation on the difference between +r and -r?!?!?!? i've even read the thing at videohelp.com and it still seems very half-assed and i've heard tons of differnet stories... (ps2s read -r media, +r is better for benq burners, etc etc)

[Xtremist]

I posted this in the Mitsumi thread as well. Bought 200 pack BenQ for $59.99 in-store. It is the 8X DVD-R BenQ's but my BenQ 822A burner with the newest firmware only recognizes it as follows :

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY08D1
<SNIPPED>
Thanks for the media code - I sure hope FS is shipping the 8x -R media for their Boxing Day orders. $0.30/disc for Sony 8x media is a nice deal (not as nice as the BestBuy Fujifilm $0.40/disc Taiyo Yuden MIJ's but still good).

[Xtreme]

I could not find any of the 8x 200 packs in T.O. (went to 5 stores) All the 200 packs were 4x. However all the stores had 8x 100 packs for 34.99

Also, despite what some are saying, this media is not bad at all.

[peoples_Flip]

I bought the BenQ 8X DVD-R from FutureShop around 3:00pm today and the Media code/Manufacturer ID is "SONY08D1". There were 4 of these boxes in the Brampton location (HWY 410 & Bovaird) going for $59.99 before taxes.

Here's a picture of the box.

http://members.rogers.com/gqteeflip79/benq200.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/gqteeflip79/benq200rec.jpg

I have already burned at 8x using my LG 4120B 12X burner and it was a success
For more info on the media codes, Click Here (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2268#comments)

[taxguru]

1000 packs of -r in stock as of 11:00pm EST.

[capital_region]

1000 now

[mbiz]

The only BenQ 200 packs I see on the website are 4X. Are there suppose to be 8X ones?

[seefuthead]

honestly i think most people who say benq are crap havent even personally used it. everyone on this forum makes such a big deal about TY TY TY TY TY. sure TY good but ive tried prodisc, optodisc, ricoh and they all work great too. all of them play in all my dvd players and my ps2. havent had any coasters with any of them either unless i accidentally open a program while burning. o_0

[peoples_Flip]

The only BenQ 200 packs I see on the website are 4X. Are there suppose to be 8X ones?

Like I said, I went to the store today and they were selling these 8X DVD-R's for the same price as the 4X ones. If you go to the location I went to there were about 4 of these 8X boxes left.

[eunit]

BENQ 200, DVD+R and DVD-R restocked again.
Id go for the -R as they are more compatible with dvd players. If you have a burner which supports bitsetting, the +R dvds can be changed to -R.

[shawbros88]

BENQ 200, DVD+R and DVD-R restocked again.
Id go for the -R as they are more compatible with dvd players. If you have a burner which supports bitsetting, the +R dvds can be changed to -R.
Sorry, you are wrong. If you have a writer which supports bitsetting, the +R dvds can be set to DVD-ROM (not -R) which is not only more compatible than DVD-R with DVD players but will also rip faster.

[mahjongmaniac]

thx 4 da update... but i think 200pks are WAY too much 4 me..! i don't even if i'll use'em up within a year...!

[Xtremist]

honestly i think most people who say benq are crap havent even personally used it. everyone on this forum makes such a big deal about TY TY TY TY TY. sure TY good but ive tried prodisc, optodisc, ricoh and they all work great too. all of them play in all my dvd players and my ps2. havent had any coasters with any of them either unless i accidentally open a program while burning. o_0
It is soooo much more than a question of "are you able to burn this media" and "will it play". It also should be about if the media has a consistent readability with very few errors and is made from materials such that the disc's contents will persist for a prolonged period of time.

That is the basis for what I look for in media and that being said, the quality control with Taiyo Yudens is incredible so if one can get them at a good price, they should - IF the longevity of their data is of any consequence.

I agree that, if you're just going to rip a PS2 game or something that you'll use for a couple of months (or, heck, just a weekend), any readable media will fit the bill. But if you need something to last a long time, TY's are better.

Now, if one can get the Sony 8x media that comes in the 200 pack BenQ 8x -R's, then I would say that this is a really good price/performance ratio that should be explored.

[CSR]

It is soooo much more than a question of "are you able to burn this media" and "will it play". It also should be about if the media has a consistent readability with very few errors and is made from materials such that the disc's contents will persist for a prolonged period of time.

That is the basis for what I look for in media and that being said, the quality control with Taiyo Yudens is incredible so if one can get them at a good price, they should - IF the longevity of their data is of any consequence.

I agree that, if you're just going to rip a PS2 game or something that you'll use for a couple of months (or, heck, just a weekend), any readable media will fit the bill. But if you need something to last a long time, TY's are better.

Now, if one can get the Sony 8x media that comes in the 200 pack BenQ 8x -R's, then I would say that this is a really good price/performance ratio that should be explored.

And what is an example of something that needs to be kept a LONG time... longer than what the Benq's will last

[pete]

is there anything marked on these dvds? or are they only silver? does it say anywhere that they are BENQ?

[CheaperByTheDozen]

And what is an example of something that needs to be kept a LONG time... longer than what the Benq's will last
Irreplaceable digital photos or home movies to give just a couple of examples.

[LNahid2000]

Irreplaceable digital photos or home movies to give just a couple of examples.
yeah im probably going to get all my hi8 tapes onto the fuji dvds once i get them.

[madman604]

vancouver and RCMD stores have stock. i ordered online cuz i dont wanna drive.

[thedon]

honestly i think most people who say benq are crap havent even personally used it. everyone on this forum makes such a big deal about TY TY TY TY TY. sure TY good but ive tried prodisc, optodisc, ricoh and they all work great too. all of them play in all my dvd players and my ps2. havent had any coasters with any of them either unless i accidentally open a program while burning. o_0

i have used them and they are the only brand that i can't even get one to work so for me they suck... i'm glad i only bought a 50 pack

if benq works for u then thas great but they don't work on my burner or my friends burner or dvd player.... the great thing about ty is that i've never seen a burner that it doesn't work for and if it is true that they last longer than thats a bonus

[bodobodo]

i have used them and they are the only brand that i can't even get one to work so for me they suck... i'm glad i only bought a 50 pack

if benq works for u then thas great but they don't work on my burner or my friends burner or dvd player.... the great thing about ty is that i've never seen a burner that it doesn't work for and if it is true that they last longer than thats a bonus

Were you using the 4X or 8X discs? Which burner were you using?

[Shaf]

There's over 800 of each left right now!

[DaVillen]

I ordered 3 packs on christmas day, so i'll let you guys know if thier 4x or 8x when i get today or tommorow or whenever i get them. Last time i ordered i got daxon -r which burnt well (only 3 or 4 coasters out of 200), only thing is i couldn't burn at 8x without errors. Even if i get the 4x sony code i'll still be happy, cause those can be burnt at 8x ok.

[vpower]

Thanks for the post!

my brother will get one pack...

[kbjy11]

anyone know if the 200 pack -R's are sony media?

if so, they work very nicely on the 2500a btw...better writes than TY's...

if someoen can check, that would be cool..

[DaVillen]

I just got the 200 pack of dvd-r and thier 8x FUJIFILM03.

[bodobodo]

I just got the 200 pack of dvd-r and thier 8x FUJIFILM03.

Strange. Were these marked as made in Malaysia or Taiwan?

[DaVillen]

The ones i got are made in taiwan. Just burned 1 and it came out good at 8x and verified ok. dvdrhelp.com has good reviews on that fuji media code, actually better than sony.

[kbjy11]

FUJIFILM03 is good stuff.

avoid it if you have a lite-on burner tho.

[bodobodo]

FUJIFILM03 is good stuff.

avoid it if you have a lite-on burner tho.

The problem in certain cases, however, is that one company using a given media code doesn't necessarily mean that it is the exact same thing. It's hard to tell if you are comparing apples to apples or apples to oranges.

[kingfencer]

ordered online on xmas, got mine already...

[kingfencer]

wtf... i ordered 4X and they shipped 8x to me... same price though... oh well.... looks like i aint the only one.

[StoneColdWhat]

I walked into the store calmly on boxing day around noon and there were plenty left :cheesygri

[quatro4u]

Just received mine today they are in fact Fujifilm03 and made in taiwan (8X) but they only burn at 4X on my maddog. Maybe I need a firmware upgrade

don't have any experience with these discs? Any comments from others?

[Jordie]

I've checked online 4-10x daily since boxing day, and driven to the two stores in my area at least once daily, all to no avail. Even when they say the B&M stores have stock online. Grr!

Neways, I got a box of -R and a box of +R, plus the MS Cordless K/B I've been going nuts looking for! (Ask my lady she'll tell ya!)

Woop! :>

[sleepyguy]

Got a stack of +R's... wonder how they stack up against the 8X OptoDisc from Ncix.

[jazziman]

Mine are 4x sony's. Thats fine with me though cause my burner only burns at 4x.

http://img90.exs.cx/img90/2584/cdspeed6lf.jpg

[Duo64]

ok, so since my benq dw1620 has bitsetting, i should've bought +r instead? since it converts em to dvd-rom, which means it'll be read on almost anything (ps2 and dvd players most importantly) and also because benq burners work better with +r? damn anybody wanna trade 198 +r for my 198 -r =pp

[thedon]

Were you using the 4X or 8X discs? Which burner were you using?
they are 8x +r's and i'm using a toshiba r5272... my friends is a sony but i don't know the exact model

i dunno maybe i just got a bad spindle or something, anyways dvdinfo pro says that my disc are DAXON AZ2 whatever that is

[YLSF]

The +Rs are definitely back in stock.. I didn't check the -Rs...

[DaVillen]

^^ Still over 500 left for -R. I burned about 10 today and they all burnt and verified 100%. They even play on my old JVC standalone which had problems skipping on other media like princo, ridata riteks, ect..

[oratihsus]

ok, this may sound stupid but anyway :) how do you check what type of disc the benq spindle is? how do you know if's it's sony or fujifilm?

[dmdsoftware2]

Whatever happened to the digital dolphin? Did he go extinct?

[vpower]

to the pro out there...here's mine...I bought the 200 (100 x 2) DVD-R

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY08D1
Format Capacity Not Formatted
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Media Id Code Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0C
2x Write Strategy field 1 12 A8 88 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 16
4x Write Strategy field 1 0A 0E 09 04
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 06 0C 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 08
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 18 97 88 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 B7 9B B8 83 00 30
4x Write Strategy field 6 0F FF D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

[DaVillen]

ok, this may sound stupid but anyway :) how do you check what type of disc the benq spindle is? how do you know if's it's sony or fujifilm?


I use DVD Identifier or you can even check with DVD Decrypter.


BTW.. i just had my first coaster after 17 burned. For some reason my 108 burner gets stuck at the 385 mark when it switches from 6x to 8x. Use to happen with grade b princos i use to burn on the first firmware hack for the pioneer 108.

[north77]

Whatever happened to the digital dolphin? Did he go extinct?


He's on a well deserved 'vacation'! :)

[NeoCyber]

^^ Still over 500 left for -R. I burned about 10 today and they all burnt and verified 100%. They even play on my old JVC standalone which had problems skipping on other media like princo, ridata riteks, ect..

You and I are in the same boat... thought I was getting 4x, got 8x. Was hoping for SONY discs, ended up getting FUJI. 9 year old JVC stand-alone plays Benq -Rs wonderfully, basically no probs. Suh-weet!!!

Ordered online at about 1am Xmas day, delivered this morning... they were available in-store on Hwy 48 & 14th Ave in Markham though...

[DaVillen]

NeoCyber: When was the last time you saw that they had the stock? I'll run down if they still have them.

[to_munda]

anyone care to put a link to this?
Tx-

[oratihsus]

I use DVD Identifier or you can even check with DVD Decrypter.


BTW.. i just had my first coaster after 17 burned. For some reason my 108 burner gets stuck at the 385 mark when it switches from 6x to 8x. Use to happen with grade b princos i use to burn on the first firmware hack for the pioneer 108.
thanks DaVillen :)

[Matrx]

anyone care to put a link to this?
Tx-

dvd+r
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10048426&newdeptid=&catid=12501&logon=&langid=EN&dept=0

dvd-r
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=0&sku_id=0665000FS10048425&catid=&newdeptid=2

[pete]

does it say benq or anything else on these dvds? or are they just silver?

[oratihsus]

i got the dvd-r and it does say benq 8X.........when i check the discs, they're fujifilm........is fuji or sony better?

[bodobodo]

When posting a media code could you also post the country of manufacture. One person has given the combination of Made in Taiwan/FUJIFILM03 and I have previously bought Made in Malaysia/SONY08D1 in smaller packs. Is it consistent this way so that if you buy Malaysian discs you can be sure they have the SONY08D1 code and Taiwanese discs will defintely be the FUJIFILM03 code?

[Mystix]

i got my box today, made in taiwan, dont know how to check the dye though.

Also I think 200 is too much for myself to use. If anyone would like to take half for $35 Pm me

[peoples_Flip]

Has anybody had any BAD LUCK with these BenQ discs?

[tibor]

I'm a noobie when it comes to dvd + or -.... Can someone explain to me which one is good for which? I've heard +R's is better for date storage where as -R's are good for media rich files such as movies, games etc... Is this true??

Any links about the difference would be greatly appreciated if no one wants to respond :cheesygri

[shawbros88]

I'm a noobie when it comes to dvd + or -.... Can someone explain to me which one is good for which? I've heard +R's is better for date storage where as -R's are good for media rich files such as movies, games etc... Is this true??Not true, already answered earlier on page 2 of this thread: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showthread.php?p=1212885#post1212885

[bodobodo]

As a follow-up I got my 200 pack today of the BenQ DVD-R discs. Mine are labelled 8X and are made in Taiwan. They come with the SONY08D1 code. This means that 8X BenQ DVD-R discs made in Taiwan can be either SONY08D1 or FUJIFILM03. For anyone who has bought the 8X DVD-R 200 packs of Made in Malaysia media can you let us know whether your media had the Sony or Fuji code?

[quatro4u]

can you tell me if the cake box is black? I got the 200 pack made in taiwan and fujifilm03......

Just wanted to verify before I bring them back

[DaVillen]

can you tell me if the cake box is black? I got the 200 pack made in taiwan and fujifilm03......

Just wanted to verify before I bring them back


The box i have is purple and pink.

[bodobodo]

can you tell me if the cake box is black? I got the 200 pack made in taiwan and fujifilm03......

Just wanted to verify before I bring them back

The base of my cakebox with the Taiwanese SONY08D1 media is grey. The lip at the top of my spindle has a raised edge. Sitting on the top of the spindle is a grey rubber or foam spacer. Below it is a round purple paper insert with details on Picfect technology (?) and DataGuard X Technology and a title of Picture-Perfect Memories That Last. It covers the entire width of the spindle. I hope that helps. Hopefully at least one of those spindle characteristics will allow us to tell what type of media is inside. That being said, it's hard to know which media code is actually preferable.

[DaVillen]

The base of my cakebox with the Taiwanese SONY08D1 media is grey. The lip at the top of my spindle has a raised edge. Sitting on the top of the spindle is a grey rubber or foam spacer. Below it is a round purple paper insert with details on Picfect technology (?) and DataGuard X Technology and a title of Picture-Perfect Memories That Last. It covers the entire width of the spindle. I hope that helps. Hopefully at least one of those spindle characteristics will allow us to tell what type of media is inside. That being said, it's hard to know which media code is actually preferable.


Looking at http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2268#comments for sony media code reviews

and at http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=&dvdmediadvdridsearch=fujifilm03&type=6&size=All&dvdburnspeed=All&order=Name&hits=25&search=Search+or+List+Media for fuji reviews

you can clearly see that people have had better luck with the fuji media code.

[bodobodo]

Looking at http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2268#comments for sony media code reviews

and at http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=&dvdmediadvdridsearch=fujifilm03&type=6&size=All&dvdburnspeed=All&order=Name&hits=25&search=Search+or+List+Media for fuji reviews

you can clearly see that people have had better luck with the fuji media code.

The problem, however, is that it is been argued before that the discs that BenQ sells may share the same media code as genuine Sony and Fuji discs but aren't made at the same factory and so results with non-BenQ discs with those media codes may not be representative of what you can expect from BenQ discs.

I have some Sony branded Taiwanese made discs with the SONY01D8 media code and the markings on them don't compare to the ones on the BenQ discs with the same media code. At least with TY discs the hub markings make them readily identifiable no matter whether they are Fuji or Maxell branded discs.

[StarStrike]

Futureshop just restocked the DVDs again. There are over a 1000 of each (+R and -R). The deal ends tomorrow so get em while you can.

[DaVillen]

The problem, however, is that it is been argued before that the discs that BenQ sells may share the same media code as genuine Sony and Fuji discs but aren't made at the same factory and so results with non-BenQ discs with those media codes may not be representative of what you can expect from BenQ discs.

I have some Sony branded Taiwanese made discs with the SONY01D8 media code and the markings on them don't compare to the ones on the BenQ discs with the same media code. At least with TY discs the hub markings make them readily identifiable no matter whether they are Fuji or Maxell branded discs.


Still, thiers alot of fake Ty's going around. And these benq's look different from the daxons i use to have, so i doubt benq just puts in any media code on a disc with the same dye.

[DaVillen]

Futureshop just restocked the DVDs again. There are over a 1000 of each (+R and -R). The deal ends tomorrow so get em while you can.


Good luck getting them anytime soon. I have 5 orders that still have to be shipped, and last october when they had the special it took them close to a month before they got the stock to ship.

[fitbrit]

Good luck getting them anytime soon. I have 5 orders that still have to be shipped, and last october when they had the special it took them close to a month before they got the stock to ship.

I got mine today- 8x +R, not 4x +R as advertised. I want my money back! :)

[kingfencer]

wow, is it even a deal? they have 1000's in stock...

[CanadianMike]

wow, is it even a deal? they have 1000's in stock...
theyre making ridiculous amounts available to order but they arent actually in stock. i ordered a few days ago and mine still havent been shipped, not listed as in stock.

[batphantom]

If you have a friend who works at FS, they're HALF that. I grabbed 400 for a total of $56. It's sick.

[Mint]

As a follow-up I got my 200 pack today of the BenQ DVD-R discs. Mine are labelled 8X and are made in Taiwan. They come with the SONY08D1 code. This means that 8X BenQ DVD-R discs made in Taiwan can be either SONY08D1 or FUJIFILM03. For anyone who has bought the 8X DVD-R 200 packs of Made in Malaysia media can you let us know whether your media had the Sony or Fuji code?

i bought a 100 pack in store and it says made in malaysia. Its got the sony08D1 code.

[peoples_Flip]

i bought a 100 pack in store and it says made in malaysia. Its got the sony08D1 code.
Same here, the 8X from the store and it reads the Sony code as well.

[Bafflebrain]

I got the 200 box of 8X DVD+R

Media code is DAXON

Are these any good? I made one burn w/o any prob.

[apvm]

They are ok and should burn at 12X with the Benq 1620 without problem but at 16X may produce a coaster.

[madman604]

theyre making ridiculous amounts available to order but they arent actually in stock. i ordered a few days ago and mine still havent been shipped, not listed as in stock.

none of the vancouver stores have stock, yet they dont update their site :(

i went to 3 damn stores.

[bodobodo]

So to extrapolate from what has been posted so far I will propose this as a guide:

BenQ 8x DVD-R

-if made in Malaysia, it should be the SONY01D8 media code
-if made in Taiwan with a spindle with a black base, likely FUJIFILM03
-if made in Taiwan with a spindle with a grey base, likely SONY01D8

It's still hard to say whether the media code on BenQ discs has any relation to genuine FUJIFILM03 or SONY01D8 from Fuji and Sony, respectively.

[mashimaro]

Are you guys saying that the box you ordered on the web arrived are labelled 8X on the outside? Or that it was labelled 4X and it just so happened to work at 8X?

The reason why I'm asking is that if they are labelled as 4X and work at 8X then I'll get a box at one of the B&M stores.

[bodobodo]

Are you guys saying that the box you ordered on the web arrived are labelled 8X on the outside? Or that it was labelled 4X and it just so happened to work at 8X?

The reason why I'm asking is that if they are labelled as 4X and work at 8X then I'll get a box at one of the B&M stores.

In my case both the ones that I bought in store and via the web were marked 8X and had media codes consistent with 8X media.

[trusoulja2g]

I got the 200 box of 8X DVD+R

Media code is DAXON

Are these any good? I made one burn w/o any prob.

Based on what I've read, these are mediocre discs and aren't as agood as the DVD-R's. But, it also depends what burner you have. The Benq burners (such as the 1620) work better with DVD+R's. And the 1620 will burn the Daxon 8X at 12X at least. Benq's website claims the 1620 will burn Daxon 8x at 16X. So if you have a Benq drive, these may be a decent choice.

[DaVillen]

So to extrapolate from what has been posted so far I will propose this as a guide:

BenQ 8x DVD-R

-if made in Malaysia, it should be the SONY01D8 media code
-if made in Taiwan with a spindle with a black base, likely FUJIFILM03
-if made in Taiwan with a spindle with a grey base, likely SONY01D8

It's still hard to say whether the media code on BenQ discs has any relation to genuine FUJIFILM03 or SONY01D8 from Fuji and Sony, respectively.


I now have 8x sony's and fuji's, both discs have a different shade of purple which leads me to believe that each disc is made by a different manufacture, so i looks like they are real sonys and fuji otherwise they would both have the same shade on purple on the dye.

[mashimaro]

In my case both the ones that I bought in store and via the web were marked 8X and had media codes consistent with 8X media.

Rats. Has anyone actually seen the 8X ones in stores for the $59 price in the Toronto area? I went to the Warden and 7 FS and they only had the 4X labelled boxes. I'm wondering what my chances are that I'll get a 8X labelled box in the mail if I order over the web.

Does anyone want to split their 200 8X DVD-R pack with me?

[apvm]

Based on what I've read, these are mediocre discs and aren't as agood as the DVD-R's. But, it also depends what burner you have. The Benq burners (such as the 1620) work better with DVD+R's. And the 1620 will burn the Daxon 8X at 12X at least. Benq's website claims the 1620 will burn Daxon 8x at 16X. So if you have a Benq drive, these may be a decent choice.


The 1620 will burn a coaster for Daxon 8X @16X, 12X is ok

The 1620 will burn the Sony code -R at 16X and is ok

With B7P9 firmware the 1620 will burn -R media as good as other drives....ie no more Benq is better with +R media, -R media is just as good

[andre3000]

do these work with the xbox. specifically thompson drive?

[bodobodo]

I now have 8x sony's and fuji's, both discs have a different shade of purple which leads me to believe that each disc is made by a different manufacture, so i looks like they are real sonys and fuji otherwise they would both have the same shade on purple on the dye.

That is some interesting logic. It doesn't necessarily prove that they are real Sonys and Fujis at all. It could just as easily mean is that BenQ is getting its Sony code discs and Fuji code discs from different Taiwanese suppliers. Keep in mind that both Malaysian and Taiwanese-made discs sold by BenQ are using the Sony codes.

[force-feed]

I've heard about fake Tyaio Yudens before. Any chance these BenQ's could be fake? Likely a company like BenQ would not risk selling fake disks. But it would be so easy to counterfeit blank CDs and DVDs if you had access to whatever it is that generates the media codes (a stamper?).

[DaVillen]

That is some interesting logic. It doesn't necessarily prove that they are real Sonys and Fujis at all. It could just as easily mean is that BenQ is getting its Sony code discs and Fuji code discs from different Taiwanese suppliers. Keep in mind that both Malaysian and Taiwanese-made discs sold by BenQ are using the Sony codes.


So how do people prove that the FUJI TY's from BB are real TY's?

[The Digital Dolphin]

Fuji brand media is only "fake" if the media is not properly authorized by Fuji. If Fuji decides to outsource to a hongkong plant, and have them use a Taiyo Yuden code on their discs, even if it is not made by Taiyo Yuden, it is still legitimate Fuji media, because that is all they are claiming it is, and Fuji can authorize anything they want to be their official brand media type. So unless Fuji made a statement saying that their media is made by Taiyo Yuden (which they haven't) it wouldn't be a case of "fake" media.

Here's the thing:

You know that Media ID Code that everyone loves to quote? Well, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's not there so that you can find out who made the media, in fact it's not there for any consumer purpose at all. It's just a code used so that the burner can know what write strategy to use when the media is inserted.

Here's the deal, with Prodisc, CMC, Optodisc, MCC, and MBIL all manufacturing media with other people's codes on them. Not to mention the crappy manufactures like Interaxia, SKC, Lead Data, Princo, and almost every chinese and hong kong manufacturer (although there ARE some that don't!) do you really think the Media ID code is a safe or viable way of knowing who made what media?

But since everyone is just dying to know what's up with BenQ media.... it's *ALL* made by Daxon in either Malaysia or Taiwan (almost entirely Malaysia, but the Taiwan possability IS there). Now, Daxon is one of Sony's regular manufacturers, and is licensed to make media for Sony. The BenQ media with sony code *IS* licensed to have that code, but is *NOT* Sony media, and not authorized by Sony to be Sony media. Is it fake? *NO* because no one is calling it Sony media.

Both Sony and Fuji almost make none of their own media, and there's less then a 2% chance that you'll ever see any of it in Canada, or anywhere in North America, unless you have some VERY impressive contacts, or pay a lot of shipping.

[peoples_Flip]

Long time no hear Digital Dolphin... thanks for your input.

[fitbrit]

They are ok and should burn at 12X with the Benq 1620 without problem but at 16X may produce a coaster.


That's exactly what I'm seeing. I have a 1620 and the discs are 8x +r. The player recognised them at 16x capable. I burnt a DVD movie and right at the end, Nero said the burn was unsuccessful. However, that movie plays fine in my RJTech player, no problem. I produced a real coaster the next time I tried to burn at 16x. I tried to burn the same data at 12x and all was good. I think I'll use these on my computer which has the Benq 822a and the TYs I got from <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28 target=_blank>NCIX</a> for my other computer that has the 1620.

[LordAnubis]

you can use the 1620 to scan the quality of your burns with Nero CD-DVD Speed (http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_361.zip). Click Extra and go down to Disc Quality Test, the new version allows for 16x scanning.

[mahjongmaniac]

Fuji brand media is only "fake" if the media is not properly authorized by Fuji. If Fuji decides to outsource to a hongkong plant, and have them use a Taiyo Yuden code on their discs, even if it is not made by Taiyo Yuden, it is still legitimate Fuji media, because that is all they are claiming it is, and Fuji can authorize anything they want to be their official brand media type. So unless Fuji made a statement saying that their media is made by Taiyo Yuden (which they haven't) it wouldn't be a case of "fake" media.

Here's the thing:

You know that Media ID Code that everyone loves to quote? Well, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's not there so that you can find out who made the media, in fact it's not there for any consumer purpose at all. It's just a code used so that the burner can know what write strategy to use when the media is inserted.

Here's the deal, with Prodisc, CMC, Optodisc, MCC, and MBIL all manufacturing media with other people's codes on them. Not to mention the crappy manufactures like Interaxia, SKC, Lead Data, Princo, and almost every chinese and hong kong manufacturer (although there ARE some that don't!) do you really think the Media ID code is a safe or viable way of knowing who made what media?

But since everyone is just dying to know what's up with BenQ media.... it's *ALL* made by Daxon in either Malaysia or Taiwan (almost entirely Malaysia, but the Taiwan possability IS there). Now, Daxon is one of Sony's regular manufacturers, and is licensed to make media for Sony. The BenQ media with sony code *IS* licensed to have that code, but is *NOT* Sony media, and not authorized by Sony to be Sony media. Is it fake? *NO* because no one is calling it Sony media.

Both Sony and Fuji almost make none of their own media, and there's less then a 2% chance that you'll ever see any of it in Canada, or anywhere in North America, unless you have some VERY impressive contacts, or pay a lot of shipping.
---------------------------

thx 4 ur input, DD... that was quite helpful.... and interesting to know as well..... ;)

[DaVillen]

Fuji brand media is only "fake" if the media is not properly authorized by Fuji. If Fuji decides to outsource to a hongkong plant, and have them use a Taiyo Yuden code on their discs, even if it is not made by Taiyo Yuden, it is still legitimate Fuji media, because that is all they are claiming it is, and Fuji can authorize anything they want to be their official brand media type. So unless Fuji made a statement saying that their media is made by Taiyo Yuden (which they haven't) it wouldn't be a case of "fake" media.

Here's the thing:

You know that Media ID Code that everyone loves to quote? Well, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's not there so that you can find out who made the media, in fact it's not there for any consumer purpose at all. It's just a code used so that the burner can know what write strategy to use when the media is inserted.

Here's the deal, with Prodisc, CMC, Optodisc, MCC, and MBIL all manufacturing media with other people's codes on them. Not to mention the crappy manufactures like Interaxia, SKC, Lead Data, Princo, and almost every chinese and hong kong manufacturer (although there ARE some that don't!) do you really think the Media ID code is a safe or viable way of knowing who made what media?

But since everyone is just dying to know what's up with BenQ media.... it's *ALL* made by Daxon in either Malaysia or Taiwan (almost entirely Malaysia, but the Taiwan possability IS there). Now, Daxon is one of Sony's regular manufacturers, and is licensed to make media for Sony. The BenQ media with sony code *IS* licensed to have that code, but is *NOT* Sony media, and not authorized by Sony to be Sony media. Is it fake? *NO* because no one is calling it Sony media.

Both Sony and Fuji almost make none of their own media, and there's less then a 2% chance that you'll ever see any of it in Canada, or anywhere in North America, unless you have some VERY impressive contacts, or pay a lot of shipping.


Most of what you said is true, but your forgetting one thing, Royalties.

[Cantley]

Does anyone have any idea when these are going to be in stock and be shipped by futureshop.ca

Cantley

[GemInite]

ummm theres still 400 in stock, as soon as you order it they'll ship it.

[sdo]

ummm theres still 400 in stock, as soon as you order it they'll ship it.

That's not the case. They're currently "taking orders" which means, you'll get them when FS finally gets them (whenever that is). I ordered mine on December 29th and my order is still "Not Yet Shippable".

s.

[kooblu]

i bought the 25 pack BenQ 8X -R on boxing day for $9.99, they work great on my LG 4160 drive at 8X with no errors yet after about 8 discs i have burned so far.

those discs read fujifilm03 code. i will definitely buy more!

[benf]

you can use the 1620 to scan the quality of your burns with Nero CD-DVD Speed (http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_361.zip). Click Extra and go down to Disc Quality Test, the new version allows for 16x scanning.

I've found that the Benq 8x DVDs are inferior to the benq 4x. The TY's are clearly the best, but cost 4 times as much for 8x meda, ~$1.2/disc vs $0.30
Benq 8x are a bit flakey in older model DVD players, but play fine on new ones(ie phillips 642)

Here are the results for Benq 4x DVD+R, Benq 8x DVD+R, and the famous TY 8x DVD+R, judge for yourself.

Benq 4X DVD+R:
General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S
Firmware: GS0K
Disc: DVD+R (DAXON AZ1)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 130
Average: 34.00
Total: 497808
PI failures
Maximum: 10
Average: 0.34
Total: 5365
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning statistics
Elapsed time: 9:50
Number of samples: 114107
Average scanning interval: 1.24 ECC
Glitches removed: 1

Benq 8x DVD+R

General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S
Firmware: GS0K
Disc: DVD+R (DAXON AZ2)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 627
Average: 188.41
Total: 2866788
PI failures
Maximum: 36
Average: 2.99
Total: 80436
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning statistics
Elapsed time: 9:54
Number of samples: 115045
Average scanning interval: 1.24 ECC
Glitches removed: 6

Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R:

General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-851S
Firmware: GS0K
Disc: DVD+R (YUDEN000 T02)
Selected speed: Maximum
PI errors
Maximum: 476
Average: 59.69
Total: 916087
PI failures
Maximum: 14
Average: 0.14
Total: 1250
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning statistics
Elapsed time: 9:58
Number of samples: 115400
Average scanning interval: 1.24 ECC
Glitches removed: 1

[StaplesEmployee]

What stores carry these TY DVD+R's everyone is talking about. I wanna give them a try ... thanks

[benf]

What stores carry these TY DVD+R's everyone is talking about. I wanna give them a try ... thanks

blankmedia.ca sells the TY 8x DVD+R but are currently out of stock.

<a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=27 target=_blank>NCIX.COM</a> has them instock for $63.21 for a spindle of 50, plus about $11 for shipping outside of Vancouver.

As you can see, quite a bit more expensive @ $1.43+tax each than the benq 8x for $0.30+tax.

[crimsona]

TY DVD-R is $40 for a spindle of 50 right now. Just wait for <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28 target=_blank>NCIX</a> to put them on sale - it'll be $1 a piece or so (hopefully less)

Crap media is crap media. You can get even worse for 20 cents a piece, which is 33% cheaper than the BenQ!

I used crap media once - the gut-wrenching feeling when you realize all those discs you burned a mere 7 months ago are now 30% corrupt is a terrible one indeed. Never again will I get anything less than Maxell Japan quality

[LordAnubis]

@benf

I never said Benq DVD's were better than TY's, TY's are all I use. I was just pointing out to people that don't know that you can use you Benq DVD burner to scan the quality of your burned disc (I use my Liteon 832s w/Kprobe).

[benf]

@benf

I never said Benq DVD's were better than TY's, TY's are all I use. I was just pointing out to people that don't know that you can use you Benq DVD burner to scan the quality of your burned disc (I use my Liteon 832s w/Kprobe).

I was only replying to your message becase I used the program you linked for my tests. I used it with my Liteon 851 burner.

[The Digital Dolphin]

you can use the 1620 to scan the quality of your burns with Nero CD-DVD Speed (http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_361.zip). Click Extra and go down to Disc Quality Test, the new version allows for 16x scanning.

Umm, don't use the 16x media testing... it's interesting at best, but a waste of time I believe. Plus for some reason the WOPC seems to kick in while reading the disc, and causes serious slowdowns, resulting in about the same time taken to do the test at 8x, which actually produces half decent results ;)

[The Digital Dolphin]

Most of what you said is true, but your forgetting one thing, Royalties.

Hrm, interesting.... care to explain?

[hulkmania]

did any of the 604 peeps get their hand on the 200pk yet? the status for my shipment is still not available. :(

[Cantley]

blankmedia.ca sells the TY 8x DVD+R but are currently out of stock.
I ordered 50 TY DVD+R from blankmedia.ca yesterday. They are to be delivered Thursday.
TY DVD-R is $40 for a spindle of 50 right now. Just wait for <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28 target=_blank>NCIX</a> to put them on sale - it'll be $1 a piece or so (hopefully less)
<a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=37 target=_blank>NCIX's</a> shipping charge will put them back over $1/DVD.


I used crap media once - the gut-wrenching feeling when you realize all those discs you burned a mere 7 months ago are now 30% corrupt is a terrible one indeed. Never again will I get anything less than Maxell Japan quality


I agree that the BenQ media may not be the best choice for people looking for long term solutions but for those people doing daily image/back-up, the BenQ media can be a good choice. It only needs to last 24-hours before there is something more current and at $0.33/DVD, it is cost effective.

Cantley

[JuNGleR72]

did any of the 604 peeps get their hand on the 200pk yet? the status for my shipment is still not available. :(


I havent recieved mine yet, I ordered it on 12/28/04..

[cheebster]

Hi there. I bought a couple boxes of that media. Some 4X-R, and some 8X -R. All seem to have sony media codes.. but reading what the digital dolphin just said, it doesn't mean that much, other than the mfg used that code on the disk to get dvd burners to use some write strategy.

Now, i have 2 dvd burners, one LG GSA-4160B, and a Pioneer DVR-108. Is there any ways to actually determine the quality of the burns using those benq disks with any of my 2 burners ? I've tried scanning with 'DVDINFOPRO' latest version one of my burns, and i just can't compare the results i'm getting to some scans done by people using Lite-On drives, and K-Probe.. i'm getting really higher PI/PO peaks/avg's that most ppl get scanning the same media on other forums. Is this software reliable ? I wanna make sure that media is not total crap, as i need to backup about 600 gb's of data...

Thanks in advance, cheebster. :confused:

[The Digital Dolphin]

Hi there. I bought a couple boxes of that media. Some 4X-R, and some 8X -R. All seem to have sony media codes.. but reading what the digital dolphin just said, it doesn't mean that much, other than the mfg used that code on the disk to get dvd burners to use some write strategy.

Now, i have 2 dvd burners, one LG GSA-4160B, and a Pioneer DVR-108. Is there any ways to actually determine the quality of the burns using those benq disks with any of my 2 burners ? I've tried scanning with 'DVDINFOPRO' latest version one of my burns, and i just can't compare the results i'm getting to some scans done by people using Lite-On drives, and K-Probe.. i'm getting really higher PI/PO peaks/avg's that most ppl get scanning the same media on other forums. Is this software reliable ? I wanna make sure that media is not total crap, as i need to backup about 600 gb's of data...

Thanks in advance, cheebster. :confused:

Use DVDInfoPro to do a transfer rate test, don't bother with PI/PIF/POE/POF values unless you want to spend a couple weeks/months figuring out what your drive's tolerances are like. Transfer rate graphs should be smooth, with no speed drops or major dips/bumps. 12x or 16x are the best speeds to use for transfer rate tests, and doing them on DVD-ROMs is ok too.

[benf]

I ordered 50 TY DVD+R from blankmedia.ca yesterday. They are to be delivered Thursday.
Cantley

You probably ordered the TY DVD+R 8x inkjet printable DVDs.

The silver tops are still out of stock.

[jingski]

got it boxing day! updated the firmware on my burner (benq1610) and installed nero express - it worked at 16x using 8x media... cool !

[Cloud]

Use DVDInfoPro to do a transfer rate test, don't bother with PI/PIF/POE/POF values unless you want to spend a couple weeks/months figuring out what your drive's tolerances are like. Transfer rate graphs should be smooth, with no speed drops or major dips/bumps. 12x or 16x are the best speeds to use for transfer rate tests, and doing them on DVD-ROMs is ok too.

Hey DD, not to turn this into a tech support thread, but will a Transfer Rate test from Nero CD-DVD Speed suffice for checking quality? Or is DVDInfoPro's Transfer Rate test more accurate?

Thanks.

[nuropa]

I havent recieved mine yet, I ordered it on 12/28/04..

ordered on 29th, still not shippable. :confused:

[Gdog]

Ordered Xmas day, shipped Dec.28, rec'd pick up notice today. Sweet!

[pete]

if you buy a camera at FS you get a 30% coupon for any purchase of media... looks like that $60 + tax will only be $48.30 :)

pretty cool even if the media doesn't turn out good.. you can't use it online though.

[JayPatel]

both the + and - DVDR's arrived today. Box says 8X. Burned a disc at 8X today no problem.

[bear]

ordered on 29th, still not shippable. :confused:

I ordered on the 26th, status changed to shippable today sometime (5th)

[JuNGleR72]

I recieved the automated Out of stock, We're sorry for the incovience email from FS today..

[vulcan4d]

There is a way to distinguish between Sony and Fuji media when buying the Benq packs. All you have to do is check for the UPC code. Unfortunately I don't know the code, but you guys who have one or the other please post your UPC code.

I myself use TY's, they are the best media you can get. I'm interested in getting the FujiFilm03's dvd-r, although I'll need the UPC code to be sure I get the right one.

[DaVillen]

Hrm, interesting.... care to explain?


Every company that makes -r media has to pay the dvd-r alliance a royalty for use of a media code (small percentage of every disc they sell). Benq would need permission from fuji, sony or daxon to use the media code they pay a royalty on. Since Benq is a big company, they cannot use a media code from another company in a illeagle way, it would have to be the official dye and code made by the respected company with the benq named stomped on it.

Same goes for DVD drive manufactures, like when Pioneer started making a + burner with the 106, they also had to pay the dvd+ side a royalty on every burner they make.

[cheleen]

There is a way to distinguish between Sony and Fuji media when buying the Benq packs. All you have to do is check for the UPC code. Unfortunately I don't know the code, but you guys who have one or the other please post your UPC code.

I myself use TY's, they are the best media you can get. I'm interested in getting the FujiFilm03's dvd-r, although I'll need the UPC code to be sure I get the right one.


I got my order today. I had ordered one of each different size on boxing day when they all had a limit of one. These are all DVD-R's.

The 200 pack box 8X media, is made in Taiwan and are Sony media. The UPC on the box is 07284 20270.

The 50 pack is 8X media, is made in Malaysia and are Sony media. The UPC on the spindle is 07284 20241.

The 100 pack is 4X media, is made in Malasyia and are Sony media. The UPC on the spindle is 07284 20174.

I have seen people talking about the color of the spindles as well. All the ones that I have are light grey.

I have tried burning all the 3 kinds and all work great!

[Gdog]

Ordered Xmas day, shipped Dec.28, rec'd pick up notice today. Sweet!

Turns out FS shipped me 8x 200pk DVD+Rs instead of 4x! w00t! :)

[vulcan4d]

I got my order today. I had ordered one of each different size on boxing day when they all had a limit of one. These are all DVD-R's.

The 200 pack box 8X media, is made in Taiwan and are Sony media. The UPC on the box is 07284 20270.

The 50 pack is 8X media, is made in Malaysia and are Sony media. The UPC on the spindle is 07284 20241.

The 100 pack is 4X media, is made in Malasyia and are Sony media. The UPC on the spindle is 07284 20174.

I have seen people talking about the color of the spindles as well. All the ones that I have are light grey.

I have tried burning all the 3 kinds and all work great!

Thanks, so basicly I'm looking for one that's made in Taiwan and does NOT have a upc of 07284 20270 ^^, that should only lead me to FujiFilm03. Still just to be on the safe side, if someone has the upc for the fujifilm03 200pk I would greatly appreciate if you could share it with us =).

[bodobodo]

In my experience the 8X DVD-R spindles with a black base contain the FUJIFILM code whereas those with a light grey base contain SONY coded media.

[The Digital Dolphin]

Every company that makes -r media has to pay the dvd-r alliance a royalty for use of a media code (small percentage of every disc they sell). Benq would need permission from fuji, sony or daxon to use the media code they pay a royalty on. Since Benq is a big company, they cannot use a media code from another company in a illeagle way, it would have to be the official dye and code made by the respected company with the benq named stomped on it.

Same goes for DVD drive manufactures, like when Pioneer started making a + burner with the 106, they also had to pay the dvd+ side a royalty on every burner they make.

ahhh, ok....

First off, Not every company pays royalties when making DVD-R and DVD+R media. One example would be Princo, who takes the illegal route. Other companies (whom I'm not allowed to mention by name) have certain "deals" and "alliances" which allow them to legally escape these fees by providing a certain service to the companies who generally collect these fees, such as Philips and Pioneer.

Nextly, BenQ does *NOT* pay royalties for using a stamper name on their brand of media. Daxon on the other hand *might* pay royalties to Sony, but almost certainly had to for Fuji (still not sure why the heck they used Fuji's code.... unless they outsourced production?). I'm not going to go into detail as to why Daxon may not have paid Royalties to Sony, but if you look through my previous posts on the Sony/Daxon relationship, you will probably be able to figure it out.

Anyways, I *did* say in my original post that Daxon was properly licensed by Sony to make their media (Sony media) and that the BenQ media was licensed by Sony to be made with that Media ID. The only thing I said it didn't have was permission by Sony to be Sony brand media, and that was only said because people were asking the old "is it counterfeit" question, and I was trying to show that it COULDN'T be counterfeit unless it was being sold as Sony brand media. My comments on licensing were put there to handle the royalties issue, since it cannot be said whether Sony/Daxon have the kind of relationship which requires a per disc royalty to be paid, but it CAN be said that Sony is aware of Daxon making media with their code, and have given permission. I think it goes without saying that the good manufacturers pay their royalty fee's to the DVD-FORUM and DVD+RW Alliance though ;)

Hopefully that explains my answer a little bit more :)

[numb555]

I'm more confused after, than before i came into this thread! Can we finish the hamburger paragraph and have a conclusion. Ie. In Conclusion Benq Media is Crap, in Conclusion Benq media is Good, in conclusion Benq watever.... makes it more simpler for us numbnuts out there who just wanna backup. Can I get a rating 1 out of 10 like dvdrhelp, that would be perfect. kthanx

[GemInite]

this is a little off topic but. With online orders what do you use as your reciept?

I only got a packing slip when it came and need to send ouy a rebate.

I never got a reciept in my e-mail either

[madman604]

I recieved the automated Out of stock, We're sorry for the incovience email from FS today..

as did i.

[bodobodo]

Thanks, so basicly I'm looking for one that's made in Taiwan and does NOT have a upc of 07284 20270 ^^, that should only lead me to FujiFilm03. Still just to be on the safe side, if someone has the upc for the fujifilm03 200pk I would greatly appreciate if you could share it with us =).

I'm curious why you are looking for the FUJIFILM03 coded discs over the SONY ones? Has anyone compared BenQ discs with the two different codes so far and found the FUJIFILM03 coded ones to be superior in some way?

[cheleen]

I'm more confused after, than before i came into this thread! Can we finish the hamburger paragraph and have a conclusion. Ie. In Conclusion Benq Media is Crap, in Conclusion Benq media is Good, in conclusion Benq watever.... makes it more simpler for us numbnuts out there who just wanna backup. Can I get a rating 1 out of 10 like dvdrhelp, that would be perfect. kthanx

I have NEVER burnt a coaster with this media, and I have used lots of it. I have tried the burnt disks on quite a few different machines (ours, friends, families) as well as my Playstation 2 system and the disks all work great. No issues what so ever.

I did return 1 - 50 pack spindle a while ago, as when I opened it there was a very noticeable flaw right across every disk. Did not even bother to try to use them. Flaws can happen with any make.

Overall, I have been VERY happy with this media. All the ones I have used have had the light grey spindle and have been "sony code".

[akito925]

question is is this benq media is the same as the sony media brand? as is in saying...

they are made the same at the same factory but labled benq ????

[Eluder]

Packing slip is the receipt... :)

this is a little off topic but. With online orders what do you use as your reciept?

I only got a packing slip when it came and need to send ouy a rebate.

I never got a reciept in my e-mail either

[Gdog]

this is a little off topic but. With online orders what do you use as your reciept?

I only got a packing slip when it came and need to send ouy a rebate.

I never got a reciept in my e-mail either

Go back to FS.ca and login...then go to My Orders and print the .PDF receipt.

[The Digital Dolphin]

question is is this benq media is the same as the sony media brand? as is in saying...

they are made the same at the same factory but labled benq ????

They have different quality requirements for Sony then they do for BenQ brand. However, generally they can be made in the same plant using the same equipment. Normally however, BenQ media is made in Malaysia, and Sony media is made in Taiwan..... but both could be made in either plant.

[vulcan4d]

I'm curious why you are looking for the FUJIFILM03 coded discs over the SONY ones? Has anyone compared BenQ discs with the two different codes so far and found the FUJIFILM03 coded ones to be superior in some way?

The FujiFilm03 is the better one. Don't get me wrong, the Sony are great too but for my purposes I need the better one, as for me they'll either work or not. Don't want 199 discs lying around collecting dust ^^

[bodobodo]

The FujiFilm03 is the better one. Don't get me wrong, the Sony are great too but for my purposes I need the better one, as for me they'll either work or not. Don't want 199 discs lying around collecting dust ^^

Could you explain how you have determined that they are better? I'm sure it would be of interest to other readers here who have a choice between the two.

[jory29]

My 200 pack of DVD+R BenQ discs came in today - they too are labeled with 8X label. I also got a coupon inside for 15% off of ink cartridges at Future Shop, valid until Dec. 31st.

Is there a way I should check to see what the code, etc, is on these discs? I'me very much a noob when it comes to DVD+R's. Thanks. :o

[JuNGleR72]

you guys are lucky..
im stilling waiting for my tracking #..

[arciervo]

They have different quality requirements for Sony then they do for BenQ brand. However, generally they can be made in the same plant using the same equipment. Normally however, BenQ media is made in Malaysia, and Sony media is made in Taiwan..... but both could be made in either plant.
Digital Dolphin,

I hate to put you on the spot (and I apologize if you have already commented on this) but I'd be interested in your opinion of the BenQ discs (both 4x and 8x, +R and -R). In particular, I'd be interested in knowing how they might compare with Taiyo Yuden's for archival purposes.

I bought a 50-disc spindle of BenQ 8x DVD+Rs on Boxing Day and have not had any problems burning and verifying with my LG 4082B (apart from being limited to a 4x write speed). So far I've just been using them for data and video which I could afford to lose. However, I'm planning to transfer some home videos from VHS and Hi-8 to DVD format and I'm wondering if these discs are likely to exhibit data loss over time.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Tony

[jory29]

you guys are lucky..
im stilling waiting for my tracking #..

I ordered mine on Christmas Day, early on in the day.

[vulcan4d]

I got the Sony ones. When to futureshop and they were sold out. Went to another futureshop and they only had 1 left. Checked the upc, they were the Sony's. I thought I could order online and I would get a chance of getting the fuji, but really what were my chances 1 in 50? lol So I went ahead and bought them. Still havn't tested them, but will soon.

[LittleStone]

It depends on what drive you have.

I have tried Benq 8X DVD+R, 8X DVD-R, and 4X DVD-R. My burner is a Liteon LDW-812S. The 8X +R is excellent for my drive. 8X -R is okay, with acceptable PI/PIF scan, and my other several DVD drive can read both 8X media without problem. The 4X -R is giving me headache. But the PI/PIF is barely acceptable, and at least the DVD drive on my thinkpad can't access some of the files. I tried using hacked firmware for 812S and 832S still give me this problem. Finally I flashed a Sony DRU-700A firmware to my Liteon drive (they are the same hardware) and the 4X -R's quality improved to an acceptable level.

Try scanning and comparing all the files with your original, I have at least 5 coasters from 4X -R that burned "successfully" and scanning without errors, yet the files are corrupted.

[abstract808]

Go back to FS.ca and login...then go to My Orders and print the .PDF receipt.
The packing slip is your receipt. I've always sent the packing slip and have rec'd my rebate.

From the Futureshop online rebate FAQ:
http://www.futureshop.ca/rebate/rebatefaq.asp?logon=&langid=EN&dept=0

8. What documentation do I need for my rebate request
A - The documentation required for your rebate is listed under the Proof of Purchase Requirements on your rebate form or under the terms and condition section. . While every manufacturer's rebate requirements are different, there are usually three common components:

* The UPC (Universal Product Code) which is usually located on the box
* A completed rebate form
* A copy of your receipt

Receipts for online purchases are included in the product shipment.

[OrdG]

DVD-R's went from 49 last night to 0 this morning. Plenty of DVD+R's left...

[actng]

Just got an email from FS support that they're out of stock. ETA: none.

[The Digital Dolphin]

The FujiFilm03 is the better one. Don't get me wrong, the Sony are great too but for my purposes I need the better one, as for me they'll either work or not. Don't want 199 discs lying around collecting dust ^^

You *LIKE* FUJIFILM03??? Wow...

Personally, I've never had a good experience with the stuff.

By the way, I'd be VERY interested in why you think it's better quality?

One more thing: You don't know for sure who makes this media... it MIGHT be Daxon, it MIGHT be Prodisc, it MIGHT be any other taiwanese manufacturer also... that's a heck of a gamble for 200 DVDRs! I mean... *I* would do it, but I don't care if the quality sucks or not, because I just report the stuff... but since I'm assuming you would get nothing out of it if it turned out bad, I'm a little surprised!

[The Digital Dolphin]

Digital Dolphin,

I hate to put you on the spot (and I apologize if you have already commented on this) but I'd be interested in your opinion of the BenQ discs (both 4x and 8x, +R and -R). In particular, I'd be interested in knowing how they might compare with Taiyo Yuden's for archival purposes.

I bought a 50-disc spindle of BenQ 8x DVD+Rs on Boxing Day and have not had any problems burning and verifying with my LG 4082B (apart from being limited to a 4x write speed). So far I've just been using them for data and video which I could afford to lose. However, I'm planning to transfer some home videos from VHS and Hi-8 to DVD format and I'm wondering if these discs are likely to exhibit data loss over time.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Tony

Every drive handles them differently... but when the drive supports them well, you can get some good results. The BenQ DW1620 with B7P9 and later firmwares can burn them usually quite well.... but avoid 16x recording on the 8x media, because it just doesn't work properly. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to take the media and burn it even on all the drives I own, because I just have too many other things on my plate... and this isn't likely to change any time soon :confused: One of these days I'll need to get an apprentice who can work at my "Lair" and do burning and testing while I'm at my day job :razz:

One thing I *CAN* say is that you cannot expect to get the lifespan from a $0.30 disc that you would from a $0.85 Taiyo Yuden. I don't even trust Verbatim as much as Taiyo Yuden! BenQ, Prodisc, Ritek, and Optodisc are budget discs. Only Maxell (Japan) and Verbatim are in the same ball park as Taiyo Yuden really.

[madman604]

finally...my 2 boxes are shipable....even tho they havnt been shipped. there's light at the end of the tunnel. :cheesygri

[torontoboyz20]

my status is "released" have no ideas what's that mean.

[samson]

my status is "released" have no ideas what's that mean.

"released" probably means the warehouse can now prepare for shipping after CC verification.

I guess the stages are Not Yet shippable -- > Shippable (product in stock but order need cc verification --> released --> shipped.

[mlc2000]

Ordered mine!
Thanks again RFD!

[Cantley]

I placed my order January 3rd and today my order says "Released". Hopefully the next stage is "Shipped".

Cantley

[goden99]

:cry: Got mine today and they are 4X !!!! NOT 8X !!

[ashman]

Every drive handles them differently... but when the drive supports them well, you can get some good results. The BenQ DW1620 with B7P9 and later firmwares can burn them usually quite well.... but avoid 16x recording on the 8x media, because it just doesn't work properly. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to take the media and burn it even on all the drives I own, because I just have too many other things on my plate... and this isn't likely to change any time soon :confused: One of these days I'll need to get an apprentice who can work at my "Lair" and do burning and testing while I'm at my day job :razz:

One thing I *CAN* say is that you cannot expect to get the lifespan from a $0.30 disc that you would from a $0.85 Taiyo Yuden. I don't even trust Verbatim as much as Taiyo Yuden! BenQ, Prodisc, Ritek, and Optodisc are budget discs. Only Maxell (Japan) and Verbatim are in the same ball park as Taiyo Yuden really.

Sure burning at 16x worked, I've done it on 30 8X DVD-R BenQ discs so far without any trouble, I have a BenQ 1610. I don't see how you can say that "you cannot expect to get the lifespan from a $0.30 disc that you would from a $0.85 Taiyo Yuden" how do you know? You are just assuming that the BenQ are manufactured to a lesser standard. Rememeber $0.30 is a sale price, not the regular price. I would not put these discs in the same category as Prodisc, Pine, princo or Ritek, I believe these are as good as maxell.

AM

[ashman]

:cry: Got mine today and they are 4X !!!! NOT 8X !!

Got two boxes of the +R today and they are 8X

AM

[fidoguydo]

Are the benq 200pk available instore? I only see the 50 and 100 packs

[bodobodo]

Are the benq 200pk available instore? I only see the 50 and 100 packs

They are available in stores but perhaps your store is currently sold out.

[nuropa]

i ordered benq 200 dvd-r at the end of dec, it's still not shipped. anyone else have the same issue?

[madman604]

finally...my 2 boxes are shipable....even tho they havnt been shipped. there's light at the end of the tunnel. :cheesygri

Arrgh...still "released" not shipped! WTF!

[GunnerX]

Mine had status released since saturday but it was delivered by Purolator at 8am today. I checked again and they updated the site to shipped with the tracking number. Quite slow updating the site.

[sully]

Put in an order for a 200-pk of DVD+R, thanks. :)

[ashman]

Are the benq 200pk available instore? I only see the 50 and 100 packs

I went to three different stores and called five, none of them had any in store even though the website said they had stock. That in store indicator is a BIG SCAM if you ask me DONT TRUST IT.

AM

[fredder]

Delivered today.

[confused]

Delivered today.
mine too!

i tried to check the tracking # through purolator.. dfoesn't work though

[AbilityZone]

Got confirmation today, finally! On its way!

[CanadianMike]

my dvd+r arrived today, although the dvd-r portion of my order hasnt shipped yet.

[newkid]

I went to three different stores and called five, none of them had any in store even though the website said they had stock. That in store indicator is a BIG SCAM if you ask me DONT TRUST IT.

AM

i got the low-down on the in-store stock...here's the story, the associates in store unpacked the boxes and put the 100 dvd spindles on the shelf. So now there are a bunch of 100 piece spindles on the shelves but no 200 pc. boxes.

big thumbs down to the computer specialists for not knowing their product. :cry:

[madman604]

great...its snowing hard again. more delays. :cry:

[benf]

One thing I *CAN* say is that you cannot expect to get the lifespan from a $0.30 disc that you would from a $0.85 Taiyo Yuden. I don't even trust Verbatim as much as Taiyo Yuden! BenQ, Prodisc, Ritek, and Optodisc are budget discs. Only Maxell (Japan) and Verbatim are in the same ball park as Taiyo Yuden really.

I've just upgraded my dvd writer to this benq 1620, but in shopping for Taiyo Yuden media, I've found that the 8x TY DVD+R media is MUCH cheaper at blankmedia.ca with shipping thrown in ($40.99 + $8.84 shipping = $49.83) vs the <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=27 target=_blank>ncix.com</a> local pickup price of $63.21.

Do you know why this is? I thought this media was supposed to get cheaper in the new year.

[The Digital Dolphin]

I've just upgraded my dvd writer to this benq 1620, but in shopping for Taiyo Yuden media, I've found that the 8x TY DVD+R media is MUCH cheaper at blankmedia.ca with shipping thrown in ($40.99 + $8.84 shipping = $49.83) vs the <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=27 target=_blank>ncix.com</a> local pickup price of $63.21.

Do you know why this is? I thought this media was supposed to get cheaper in the new year.

Yeah... I know why :razz:

They keep forgetting to add the DVD+R media to their sales, and then wonder why it isn't selling as well as the DVD-R media :o

I already talked to them about this issue today, and will probably remind them again tomorrow ;)

[testing]

my dvd+r arrived today, although the dvd-r portion of my order hasnt shipped yet.
Just wonder if they sent you 4x or 8x DVD+R pack?

[computer01]

Anyone who has recently received a BenQ 200 pack of DVD-R

Did you get an 8x pack or the 4x?

Thx.

[vpower]

Anyone who has recently received a BenQ 200 pack of DVD-R

Did you get an 8x pack or the 4x?

Thx.

yeah, got mine yesterday..the order was placed on the 28th dec 2004.

I ordered the 200 DVD-r packs. And I received the 8x with FUJI Code .

The first time I ordered those DVD-R (boxing day) came with 8x with Sony code.

[Mailliw]

Does anyone know how long you have to return open spindles to Futureshop?

Thanks

[dmdsoftware2]

Arrgh...still "released" not shipped! WTF!

Same here :mad: . I'm starting to think they'll never come.

[DaVillen]

^^ Your not alone, im still waiting for mine and i placed the order on the 26th.

[Colp]

Just received my 200 -R....they were the 4X (SONY code) as advertised not the 8X disks! D'oh :mad:

[CanadianMike]

Just wonder if they sent you 4x or 8x DVD+R pack?
8x daxon.

[vpower]

8x daxon.

daxon?! 4x?! i feel lucky now! :cheesygri

where are you guys from? I'm located in Montreal.

[OrdG]

I went to three different stores and called five, none of them had any in store even though the website said they had stock. That in store indicator is a BIG SCAM if you ask me DONT TRUST IT.

"It's on layaway" until after the sale = we hid it.

[confused]

^^ Your not alone, im still waiting for mine and i placed the order on the 26th.

I ordered on the 1st, and it came today, wasn't home so i gotta go pick it up :(

[Cantley]

I ordered mine on January 3rd and received the order today. 200 8X DVD+R (Daxon AZ2). I burned my first one at 8x with a BenQ DW1620: PIE of 14, PIF of 6, Jitter average 8.12%. Overall quality score of 97. If all burn this way I will be very happy.

Cantley

[The Digital Dolphin]

I ordered mine on January 3rd and received the order today. 200 8X DVD+R (Daxon AZ2). I burned my first one at 8x with a BenQ DW1620: PIE of 14, PIF of 6, Jitter average 8.12%. Overall quality score of 97. If all burn this way I will be very happy.

Cantley

FYI, maximum jitter is more important then average... but both are good to look at. And overall quality score ONLY looks at PIF values (which means it doesn't mean that much...)

[Cantley]

FYI, maximum jitter is more important then average... but both are good to look at. And overall quality score ONLY looks at PIF values (which means it doesn't mean that much...)

My Maximum Jitter was 9.6%, Jitter average 8.12%, PIE of 14, PIF of 6. Overall quality score of 97.

Using CD Speed, what should I be looking for?

Cantley

[The Digital Dolphin]

My Maximum Jitter was 9.6%, Jitter average 8.12%, PIE of 14, PIF of 6. Overall quality score of 97.

Using CD Speed, what should I be looking for?

Cantley

You want to see Jitter Max under 12, and no serious changes in jitter values over the course of the disc. As in, you don't want there to be a huge difference between you minimum and maximum values of jitter (I know minimum values aren't counted, but you can eyeball it).

For PIF, you want to see maximum levels under 32 (no more then 32 at most) and like jitter, you don't want to see huge fluctuations.

PIE should be under 280 generally speaking, but the lesser the better. Again, you don't want to see arcs of increasing errors, or large spikes at all.

Now keep in mind, those maximum values are all based on professional calibrated testing equipment, which you don't have... so everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You might find your drive isn't picky enough in finding errors, and reports lower errors then it should, or the opposite, so you have to play it by ear.

I wouldn't really pay much attention to the quality score... but that's just me.

[benf]

Just got my benq 1620 today, and so far.. 2 coasters with TY 8x DVD+R media at 16x, 1 coaster with benq 8x Daxon AZ2 media at 16x and 1 good copy with the benq.

I'm going to flash with the G7P9 oem 1620 firmware to see if I get better results.. otherwise, its back to ncix.. and no more benq writers for me.

[g_goo_goo]

Bought a pack of BENQ DVD-R 8X (100-pack $34.99) from Futureshop during boxing week and happy to report that it burns at 16X on Pioneer DVR-108 no errors. If you have any finding of these DVD-R's please let me know.

[Cantley]

You want to see Jitter Max under 12, and no serious changes in jitter values over the course of the disc. As in, you don't want there to be a huge difference between you minimum and maximum values of jitter (I know minimum values aren't counted, but you can eyeball it).

For PIF, you want to see maximum levels under 32 (no more then 32 at most) and like jitter, you don't want to see huge fluctuations.

PIE should be under 280 generally speaking, but the lesser the better. Again, you don't want to see arcs of increasing errors, or large spikes at all.

Now keep in mind, those maximum values are all based on professional calibrated testing equipment, which you don't have... so everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You might find your drive isn't picky enough in finding errors, and reports lower errors then it should, or the opposite, so you have to play it by ear.

I wouldn't really pay much attention to the quality score... but that's just me.

Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I will be saving this information for my own use.

Cantley

[rabbit]

Here's an error scan FAQ at CD Freaks
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=80545
which pretty much says the same thing and more (despite the fact that someone is constantly badmouthing them ;)).

[The Digital Dolphin]

Here's an error scan FAQ at CD Freaks
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=80545
which pretty much says the same thing and more (despite the fact that someone is constantly badmouthing them ;)).

What can I say, CDFreaks is responsible for most of the mis-information that floats about on the net. There's good stuff on there, and even one or two people who know what they're doing (among the mods that is... I'm not looking at users, since many people who visit there also know what they're doing). I can't help but be frustrated with CDFreaks, since if they didn't exist, I'd have MUCH less cleaning up to do dispelling rumours and the like.

Another thing to consider is 95% of the media they use for testing is based on European discs, which are often not the same grade as the media that we get in North America. The same can be said for many reviews from CDRinfo as well.

[benf]

Yeah... I know why :razz:

They keep forgetting to add the DVD+R media to their sales, and then wonder why it isn't selling as well as the DVD-R media :o

I already talked to them about this issue today, and will probably remind them again tomorrow ;)


Looks like they've finally listened to you.. though they didn't lower the price enough.. blankmedia.ca's TY 8x DVD+r price is about $9 cheaper per 50.

Edit: typos

[rabbit]

I can't help but be frustrated with CDFreaks, since if they didn't exist, I'd have MUCH less cleaning up to do dispelling rumours and the like.

Yeah, I perfectly understand. I wouldn't have to post as much if I wasn't defending sites and products being bad-mouthed due to biased opinions ;).

[mouf]

What can I say, CDFreaks is responsible for most of the mis-information that floats about on the net.Easy big fellah, don't make the same mistake that Nic Wilson did.

When you attack cdfreaks forums, you're are not going after one monolithic entity, but thousands of media aficionados and real experts, LiteOne and BTC engineers none the less. What's your background again? Ah, that's right you get free drives in exchange for ecstatic reviews that in light of your last posts, look more and more like a viral marketing campaign. For instance, as much as I like <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=28 target=_blank>ncix</a>, you cannot pretend to be unbiased while constantly plugging the store, no matter how much free crap they sent you.

Club CD Freaks is the most professional board of this industry, period. No need to argue that and notice also, none of their members ever badmouth the other boards (hint!hint!), there, or elsewhere, it's not even tolerated. Respect is always an accurate indicator of the level professionalism of a group or individual. Saying they suck because Europeans are collectively well represented does not make you look good at all. If you have any non fallacious argument against the forums, as a collectivity, lets hear them. Better yet, go spread the gospel right there for maxi um impact.

I can't help but be frustrated with CDFreaks, since if they didn't exist, I'd have MUCH less cleaning up to do dispelling rumours and the like.Where are you heading with that declamation, exactly?
The Digital Dolphin > 1000's of digital media fans and pros? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder)

[thebigbea]

damn.. priced changed to $229 now.. :cry:

[samson]

I ordered the -R butmy status says shipping in Progress (Released) for the past 5 days. Anyone else have that? Should i call them ?

[beni]

ordered on Dec 30th. Came yesterday. 4x DVD-R's with the sony codes.
The spindles were smashed but that was due to the packing material on only one side of the box :mad: .
I don't think i'll bother exchanging them though, the disks seem fine

[madman604]

i ordered 2 boxes on the 28th. still nuttin. :evil:

[GemInite]

I ordered the -R butmy status says shipping in Progress (Released) for the past 5 days. Anyone else have that? Should i call them ?


I ordred mine on the 29th and my order currently has the same status.

[tescosamoa]

while waiting why not pick up a 100 pack of ty -r 4x for 69 dollars at blankmedia.ca

Thats what I did. Had it in 2 days.

still on hold for FS I am thinking that I will get a 5$ off my next purchase like last time....

[bodobodo]

while waiting why not pick up a 100 pack of ty -r 4x for 69 dollars at blankmedia.ca

Thats what I did. Had it in 2 days.

still on hold for FS I am thinking that I will get a 5$ off my next purchase like last time....

Not to directly compare the quality of TY with BenQ but there's a big price difference between paying the equivalent of $30/100 for BenQ (quite possibly 8X media) and $69/100 for 4x TY.

[madman604]

the DVD+R are still $59

but the DVD_R are like $229 or something.

FS is still taking orders for the +R even tho they are OOS

[gewain]

Just received my +R. They're the Daxon which seem fine to me. Burn x16 on my Benq DW-1620. Cannot complain at this price.
On another note, I have to say that I appreciate Digital Dolphin's input and efforts here and elsewhere. I am sure he's not perfect but he certainly puts a lot of effort into what he does and is more than willing to share his expertise with the rest of us. I feel sure that many of us have reaped the benefits of his efforts and I feel that he would be the first to correct any mistakes or misinformation he might make or disseminate.

[gewain]

Oops. Forgot - I placed my order on January 6 and the discs are X8.

[trusoulja2g]

I also got the Daxon 8x DVD+R's. Burns fine at 16x mode with Benq 1610. Although, actual speed was more like 12x, probably due the lack of HD space at the time. Quality scans are fine (similar to previous post with the scan numbers). Great deal IMO.

[thebigbea]

why doesn''t cd-r goes on sale?? :mad: :mad: i need those... even dvd-r are cheaper nowadays..

[samson]

Anyone who has their shipment in Released status + or - R should give them a call. Mine has been like that for past 5 days and it seems that they are ready to ship but the computer is not giving out a shipping # or something. The CSR said there were a LOT of people with the same problem.

Call and they will fix it for you. They are open 24X7 ..365 days

[OrdG]

Anyone who has their shipment in Released status + or - R should give them a call. Mine has been like that for past 5 days and it seems that they are ready to ship but the computer is not giving out a shipping # or something. The CSR said there were a LOT of people with the same problem.

Call and they will fix it for you. They are open 24X7 ..365 days

1-800-663-2275 is the number...

[dmdsoftware2]

1-800-663-2275 is the number...
Just called them. After waiting 3 weeks with "released", she said it will be sent high priority Monday morning and I should receive it the same day. We'll see....

[tgzo]

Gentlemen, can someone please care to explain to me the fundamental differences for DVD+rs and DVD-rs? Are they more suitable for different types of data?

I want to buy another 200 pack DVD+rs but I want to make sure they are good for burning games/movies/or just general data backup.

[dmdsoftware2]

Gentlemen, can someone please care to explain to me the fundamental differences for DVD+rs and DVD-rs? Are they more suitable for different types of data?

I want to buy another 200 pack DVD+rs but I want to make sure they are good for burning games/movies/or just general data backup.

Well.... whether which is better is purely subjective.

I prefer DVD-Rs, but for these reasons (applicable only for my scenario):
- my IBM Thinkpad CD-RW/DVD burner has 0% compatiblity for reading DVD+R/W media
- my work's Compaq Armada DVD readers have 0% compatiblity for reading DVD+R/W media (it's pretty picky on DVD-R/W media, but it does read it unlike the DVD+R/W)

You should get a blank DVD-R and DVD+R off some friend and try burning something to them and then try them on whatever devices your going to use it your blanks with. I personally burn some MP3s to a blank DVD-R and DVD+R and then try to play them back on the device (laptop/DVD player etc) and then judge by the sound quality (is their noise, poping sounds, track stop playing etc) and check the amount of work done by the device to read the media. Nowadays, new stuff usually doesn't have a problem reading blank media, but most notebooks I've tried were very particular about blank media (most didn't like DVD+Rs, and most had difficulty or were error prone with some brands of DVD-Rs).

I still keep some DVD+R media laying around for archieving data too. It might be purely unrelated, but I've been able to find better quality DVD+R media for the same price as DVD-R media.

[canox]

Looks like they've finally listened to you.. though they didn't lower the price enough.. blankmedia.ca's TY 8x DVD+r price is about $9 cheaper per 50.

Edit: typos

Aside from the topic:

I go to blankmedia.ca and try to add 1 DVD+R into the cart and see how much shipping it will cost. The cheapest method costs $8.01. This is very expensive.....am I missing out something here? coz ppl say the deal coming out from blankmedia is not bad....or they mean the deal is good for local pick up only?

[rabbit]

I go to blankmedia.ca and try to add 1 DVD+R into the cart and see how much shipping it will cost. The cheapest method costs $8.01.

I emailed them about this when trying to order some samples. They said that they no longer send via regular mail because too many people were saying they never got their shipment. I guess they send it by Express Post or something siimilar now. If you order 50 discs, the shipping to Vancouver will still be about $8.00. There's a list of approximate shipping rates per number of discs on their site.


I personally burn some MP3s to a blank DVD-R and DVD+R and then try to play them back on the device (laptop/DVD player etc) and then judge by the sound quality (is their noise, poping sounds, track stop playing etc) and check the amount of work done by the device to read the media.

So does this mean the drive is not good at reading the specific type of media or does this mean that the writer did a poor job at writing to the disc? :) If the drive can partially read a disc, it sounds more like a bad quality burn than anything. If it was not compatible with a type of disc, it wouldn't read any of it at all.

My Toshiba SD-C2612 ROM found in some ThinkPads read +R booktyped to -ROM without problems. It didn't even recognise the plainjane +R I threw at it though.

In any case, you're right in saying which to go with (-R or +R) depends on your hardware but your writer is something to take into consideration also.

[dmdsoftware2]

I go to blankmedia.ca and try to add 1 DVD+R into the cart and see how much shipping it will cost. The cheapest method costs $8.01.

I emailed them about this when trying to order some samples. They said that they no longer send via regular mail because too many people were saying they never got their shipment. I guess they send it by Express Post or something siimilar now. If you order 50 discs, the shipping to Vancouver will still be about $8.00. There's a list of approximate shipping rates per number of discs on their site.


I personally burn some MP3s to a blank DVD-R and DVD+R and then try to play them back on the device (laptop/DVD player etc) and then judge by the sound quality (is their noise, poping sounds, track stop playing etc) and check the amount of work done by the device to read the media.

So does this mean the drive is not good at reading the specific type of media or does this mean that the writer did a poor job at writing to the disc? :) If the drive can partially read a disc, it sounds more like a bad quality burn than anything. If it was not compatible with a type of disc, it wouldn't read any of it at all.

My Toshiba SD-C2612 ROM found in some ThinkPads read +R booktyped to -ROM without problems. It didn't even recognise the plainjane +R I threw at it though.

In any case, you're right in saying which to go with (-R or +R) depends on your hardware but your writer is something to take into consideration also.

Yes, it does depend on the burner (for the quality issue with DVD-R).

It's the Hitachi ultrabay drives for the thinkpads I refer to. My DVD/CDRW will only read DVD-R/W [and it occassionally has problems with reading from really cheap media too] but my ultrabay DVD reader reads both DVD+R/W and DVD-R/W and does well with the cheap media. A friend of mine just got a T42p with a ultrabay DVD burner and it can only read and write DVD-R/W media. Very weird stuff.

Anyways, the quality of playback either DVD-R/Ws and DVD+R/Ws do depend on both the media and burner, like you noted.

[slick_rick1978]

I ordered my -R on Jan 2, and everytime I check my order, it is under the same status. It is at "2. Approved - In Progress. The billing verification process has been successfully completed for this order and is preparing to ship." Should I give FS a call?

[DaVillen]

I ordered my -R on Jan 2, and everytime I check my order, it is under the same status. It is at "2. Approved - In Progress. The billing verification process has been successfully completed for this order and is preparing to ship." Should I give FS a call?


I just called them like that previous poster pointed out, and they said they're going to ship them out monday. I guess something was wrong with the system or something.

[3comman]

Hi guys,

I have also ordered a 200 spindle of these +Rs and I was wondering which firmware would be the best for a NEC 3500A.

Thanks,
3comman

[Madcatmk2]

I ordered 1 pack of 4x +R on january 5. I called them to be sure that they won't charge 229$ and to confirm the order (ok). Shipped on 11 it was received on 12 to someone else in a computer shop down the street. WTH? I called them back and the "guy" said i don't know and he told me to send an email to service@futureshop.ca . I sent an email asking them if that happens often and also said that it is illegal in canada to send shipment to another address without the authorisation letter from the holder of the visa card. Purolater picked up the package at the end of the day and finaly i got it on the 13th. I never got a reply from the email i sent.


I received 8x +R benqs with "daxon az2" as manufacturer. About 15 discs on each spindle have a visible scratch spot at the end of the surface (after 4000meg) of the recording side. I didn't burned after 4gig on those discs and it works well.


Hi guys,

I have also ordered a 200 spindle of these +Rs and I was wondering which firmware would be the best for a NEC 3500A.

Thanks,
3comman

I have bought an oem "real" Nec 3500A not so long ago and it came with the latest 2.18 firmware. It burns it normaly but it has problem recognising the discs after they are burned. It takes 44 seconds! My lite-on dvd-rom takes only 3 sec. hmmm. Burns options for nero with my unhacked 3500a are 2.4x,4x,6x,8x,12x. Some people used an modified firmware and says that it can burn it at 16x with no problems. Please tell me if your nec has problems recognising those burned discs too. thank you

Madcat

edit: I forgot to say that those discs smells awful when you open the spindle.

[slick_rick1978]

I just called them like that previous poster pointed out, and they said they're going to ship them out monday. I guess something was wrong with the system or something.

I just called too, the CSR told me to call back in 3 days if my status doesn't change as they are trying to fix the problem since a lot of ppl called them about this. Let's hope they ship it out soon.

[JuNGleR72]

I called their CSR last Sat.
She told me that they are currently OOS and cannot provide a ETA for the restocks.
She sent a Request for ETA to the manufacturer and she said they will email me back asap ..

I have feeling Im getting the runaround.

[computer01]

Got a call from FS yesterday. Profuse apologies, promised shipment would be sent today. Checked online - marked as completed and Purolator tracking number is there. We shall see!

[computer01]

Woo wooooo! (Yes, I just made a sound like a choo-choo train!)

Order arrived. Benq, 4.7GB, 200pk, 8x media.

It shipped directly from Ingram Micro. The packing slip uses the same system as Ingram, except the FS name is there instead of Ingram. Even the address is Ingram's. I guess either FS has their guys working there or they are such a big customer that Ingram has its own FS dept there. (Probably the latter).

Woo woooo..... okay I'm done.

[Gdog]

So far I've burned 6 of these BenQ 8x DVD+R's without a problem. Using Nero and DW822A. :)

[aphextwin2050]

Seems to me that the future shop website is carrying 3 types of the Benq DVD-R
So far I have received 200 packs in :

4x BENQ - Sony D04
8x BenQ - Sony D08
8x BenQ - Fujifilm

I have another order coming in today and hopefully they will be 8x's and not the 4x stock.

Anybody out there have an opinion on the 8x Fujifilm media-code?

I prefer the sony's as I haven't had any problems with them so far...

:twisted: Hopefully FS has run out of the 4x stock and shipping only 8x.

On another note, has any of the stores in your area replenished their 200-pack stock of benq's?

I'm in edmonton and none of the stores have them in stock let alone the 100 pack's.

[synaptech]

damn you rfd :D ordered...

[Madcatmk2]

Seems to me that the future shop website is carrying 3 types of the Benq DVD-R
So far I have received 200 packs in :

4x BENQ - Sony D04
8x BenQ - Sony D08
8x BenQ - Fujifilm

I have another order coming in today and hopefully they will be 8x's and not the 4x stock.

Anybody out there have an opinion on the 8x Fujifilm media-code?

I prefer the sony's as I haven't had any problems with them so far...

:twisted: Hopefully FS has run out of the 4x stock and shipping only 8x.

On another note, has any of the stores in your area replenished their 200-pack stock of benq's?

I'm in edmonton and none of the stores have them in stock let alone the 100 pack's.


I am sure that the -R sony's from FS are made by daxon. Take a look at the reviews for the 200 pack -r in FS.
"
Sony manufactured by BenQ, 1/5/2005
Reviewer: Spencer, Vancouver
These are great discs! They were all sold out in store a few days ago, but I grabbed the last box today on Broadway! The name BenQ might be unfamiliar to many of you, but it was actually part of the Acer group. And Daxon, part of the BenQ group, manufactures high-quality discs. So these discs are actually manufactured by Daxon, not Sony. :) The discs appear to be Sony because Daxon also manufactures some of the Sony discs! (my cousin works in Daxon, Taiwan.) Anyway, too much story telling here. My recommandation is: get these discs asap when they are still available at this price!!! as the price is lower than the employee price my cousin can get!
"

The -Rs are sold out now. FS is still taking orders for +R though. Wonder how they can order dvds at such a low price and making profit.

Madcat

[aphextwin2050]

I am sure that the -R sony's from FS are made by daxon. Take a look at the reviews for the 200 pack -r in FS.
"
Sony manufactured by BenQ, 1/5/2005
Reviewer: Spencer, Vancouver
These are great discs! They were all sold out in store a few days ago, but I grabbed the last box today on Broadway! The name BenQ might be unfamiliar to many of you, but it was actually part of the Acer group. And Daxon, part of the BenQ group, manufactures high-quality discs. So these discs are actually manufactured by Daxon, not Sony. :) The discs appear to be Sony because Daxon also manufactures some of the Sony discs! (my cousin works in Daxon, Taiwan.) Anyway, too much story telling here. My recommandation is: get these discs asap when they are still available at this price!!! as the price is lower than the employee price my cousin can get!
"

The -Rs are sold out now. FS is still taking orders for +R though. Wonder how they can order dvds at such a low price and making profit.

Madcat

Ah okay, so does that also mean that daxon also makes DVD-R's for Fuji too?

Yeah I agree with you on that one, how do they make a profit considering it's also free shipping? Maybe it will get people who are hestitant on buying a dvd burner more interested since the media is so cheap now and the fact FS must have a deal with benq too helps.

But I'm not complaning :cheesygri
TIme to stock up!

[dmdsoftware2]

These guys are giving me the biggest run around. I phoned on the weekend and was reassured they'd be in my hands Monday afternoon (after being stuck in 'released' on my order for 3 weeks).... well, it doesn't look like anything is coming today and my order is still stuck in 'released'.

I already refuse to go into a FutureShop store because of bad customer service...

[samson]

These guys are giving me the biggest run around. I phoned on the weekend and was reassured they'd be in my hands Monday afternoon (after being stuck in 'released' on my order for 3 weeks).... well, it doesn't look like anything is coming today and my order is still stuck in 'released'.

I already refuse to go into a FutureShop store because of bad customer service...


I have the same situation here...i called sometime ago and the shipment just came in and will be shipped tonite (at least tracking #s)...we will see...these are for - R. The CSR said that they are investigating a big mess that caused orders that were placed after mine (DEc 29) to be shipped first. There are about 200 orders. We should all demand some compensation. I know i am. I am just as frustrated as you are

[madman604]

compensation? i doubt it. they dont have to honor our online orders at all. still, I'm pretty pi$$ed off that the website never gets updated AND some people that ordered after me got their items first.

still, for such a killer deal, i'll take a little abuse. Kinda like sitting in the cold rain on Boxing day.

[dmdsoftware2]

Darn it. I called again today to complain that I still don't have my order in my hands after being told I would be the end of day on Monday. Now they are telling me that they will contact me in 24-48 hours with an explanation. :|

[SubXO]

compensation? i doubt it. they dont have to honor our online orders at all. still, I'm pretty pi$$ed off that the website never gets updated AND some people that ordered after me got their items first.

still, for such a killer deal, i'll take a little abuse. Kinda like sitting in the cold rain on Boxing day.

sitting in the cold rain is for a few hours...waiting at home for a package for almost a month is more than "a little abuse." :evil:

[madman604]

sitting in the cold rain is for a few hours...waiting at home for a package for almost a month is more than "a little abuse." :evil:

yah but you save almost $150 off each box so if you really aren't in a rush its really not so bad. its not like waiting of a sweet LCD or a set of 5.1 speakers that you can really enjoy. blank dvds are well...blanks.

[vicvic]

hey guys.. I ordered mine on dec. 25.. and got it couple days ago.. and guess wat.. wat I got is completed shattered package... 2 spinals are broken and top and bottom is off.. @@. no FS in GVRD have it.. @@ I have to phone it to see if I can get an exchange... @@

[Arrow]

hey guys.. I ordered mine on dec. 25.. and got it couple days ago.. and guess wat.. wat I got is completed shattered package... 2 spinals are broken and top and bottom is off.. @@. no FS in GVRD have it.. @@ I have to phone it to see if I can get an exchange... @@

The other day at FS, I saw the same thing happen to another guy's package. Talk about poor packaging. He was bringing it in and trying to get an exchange; unfortunately, they did not have it in stock.

[sdo]

I ordered my 200 pack of DVD-R's December 29th and I'm still waiting for them. They've been in "Released" mode for over a week now. I've placed a number of calls in to them but they are still investigating the problem and told me to just "wait".

On top of that, I'm still waiting on my Harmony Remote that I ordered on December 25th as well. It's currently "Not Yet Shippable".

I'm really not very impressed with FS.ca and will be writing a strongly worded letter to their head office once this whole experience is overwith. I suggest others in a similar situation do the same.

s.

[coolCAT]

Seems to me that the future shop website is carrying 3 types of the Benq DVD-R
So far I have received 200 packs in :

4x BENQ - Sony D04
8x BenQ - Sony D08
8x BenQ - Fujifilm

I have another order coming in today and hopefully they will be 8x's and not the 4x stock.

Anybody out there have an opinion on the 8x Fujifilm media-code?

I prefer the sony's as I haven't had any problems with them so far...

:twisted: Hopefully FS has run out of the 4x stock and shipping only 8x.

On another note, has any of the stores in your area replenished their 200-pack stock of benq's?

I'm in edmonton and none of the stores have them in stock let alone the 100 pack's.

800 blanks and counting...
WOW!
:lol:

[DennyTang]

Hey cool, I never noticed the ones I got were 8x.

[aphextwin2050]

I got the BENQ 8x DVD-R today
They aren't the SONY08's but FUJIFILM03
Anyone have experience with this? Is it better than the Sony or comparable quality? Don't want to be stuck with crappy media like the MITSUMI's FS is also selling.

thanks

[hseeng]

Ordered mine online Jan 18th lets see what happens.
Went to 5 FS none of them have in stock. Will not combine 2 spindles of 100 either for same price. I thought I would try though. I have a BenQ 822A

[cbsmith]

I ordered the 200 dvd-r pack on Dec 31. It has been sitting at released for almost 2 weeks now. I called FS yesterdya and thye said it would ship out last night. Today it was still at released. I called again and the guy I was talking to said that they had a problem with the dvd-r orders and are working to fix it and I should get an email in 24-48 hours. We'll see.

[madman604]

ordered on dec 28, just got a shipment confirmed today. its at the toronto purolator depot. I'm in vancouver. geez. >:(

[akito925]

ordered on dec 28, just got a shipment confirmed today. its at the toronto purolator depot. I'm in vancouver. geez. >:(

I'd have and used up 25 of the 200 pack of dvd-r's so far..

picked them up on boxing day.. ahh.. the troubles of waiting for stuff to be delived. lol

I'd woke up earily and picked it up.. its only one day you wake up that earily anyways.. for boxing day.. its the same usual time you wake up for work anyways..

[Jinx]

Ordered mine this morning, confirmed this afternoon.
It makes me nervous when things go too well..........
:lol:

[aphextwin2050]

I ordered the 200 dvd-r pack on Dec 31. It has been sitting at released for almost 2 weeks now. I called FS yesterdya and thye said it would ship out last night. Today it was still at released. I called again and the guy I was talking to said that they had a problem with the dvd-r orders and are working to fix it and I should get an email in 24-48 hours. We'll see.

Weird dude, I ordered 1 pack on Jan 2, and another on Jan 4.
I got mine yesterday.
Though it was sitting on released until Thursday of last week.

[midg8]

I got out of stock email this morning. they said they will ship when they have more. :(

[426Hemi]

What would you guys recommend,the DVD+Rs or DVD-Rs? Or does it not even matter? I dunno which ones I should order...

[Ducky]

i ordered 2 X 200 packs...on december 30

i just got it today...took them long enough...

the day i ordered, it did say 400+ in stock

[shutout]

What would you guys recommend,the DVD+Rs or DVD-Rs? Or does it not even matter? I dunno which ones I should order...

It depends on your burner. Usually +R burn faster, but -R is more compatible with standalone DVD player. ;)

My friend got LG 4160B with the 8X +R only burning at 4X.

[dmdsoftware2]

I ordered the 200 dvd-r pack on Dec 31. It has been sitting at released for almost 2 weeks now. I called FS yesterdya and thye said it would ship out last night. Today it was still at released. I called again and the guy I was talking to said that they had a problem with the dvd-r orders and are working to fix it and I should get an email in 24-48 hours. We'll see.
That's what they they told me 48 hours ago... still waiting for their email.

[426Hemi]

It depends on your burner. Usually +R burn faster, but -R is more compatible with standalone DVD player. ;)

My friend got LG 4160B with the 8X +R only burning at 4X.

are -R's compatible with DVDROM drives? i know that +R's are compatible

[Madcatmk2]

It depends on your burner. Usually +R burn faster, but -R is more compatible with standalone DVD player. ;)

My friend got LG 4160B with the 8X +R only burning at 4X.

The latest LG and Liteon models are finicky and ask better quality dvds.
The writing quality on those burners are not as good as some other burners.
Good burners: nec 3500a, pioneer 108, Benq 1620A.


are -R's compatible with DVDROM drives? i know that +R's are compatible


This will get complicated. In terms of dvd's there was a standard for pressed dvds (DVD-ROM), later came (-R) then later (+R). Because some dvd players were builded before -R got standardized they are incapable of reading those.
+R came after -R so there is even less possibility that it will read it. If you buy a new dvd player model now it should play these two.

You can search info about dvd players that you have.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

+R bitsetting
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-
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There are some burners that can change information of DVD+R discs to DVD-ROM and by doing so is more compatible than DVD-R. That is why i am in the +R camp. info here:
Info here http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150

Good luck
Madcat

[icu_nxtime]

Scarborough area, Called father in law 1 1/2 hrs north to let him know they are on the way. He got his over a week ago :lol: :?:

[JuNGleR72]

Finally i got my tracking # from FS.. :)

[426Hemi]

The latest LG and Liteon models are finicky and ask better quality dvds.
The writing quality on those burners are not as good as some other burners.
Good burners: nec 3500a, pioneer 108, Benq 1620A.





This will get complicated. In terms of dvd's there was a standard for pressed dvds (DVD-ROM), later came (-R) then later (+R). Because some dvd players were builded before -R got standardized they are incapable of reading those.
+R came after -R so there is even less possibility that it will read it. If you buy a new dvd player model now it should play these two.

You can search info about dvd players that you have.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

+R bitsetting
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
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There are some burners that can change information of DVD+R discs to DVD-ROM and by doing so is more compatible than DVD-R. That is why i am in the +R camp. info here:
Info here http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150

Good luck
Madcat

I got the NEC 3500a, so it looks like its +R's for me :cheesygri

[gmark2000]

Because some dvd players were builded before -R got standardized...
Because some DVD players were built before -R was standardized...

[james_bond_007]

Because some DVD players were built before -R was standardized...

Thanks for clearing that up gmark2000......cause I had no idea what madcatmk2 was talking about! How many languages are you proficient with anyways :razz:

[shutout]

The latest LG and Liteon models are finicky and ask better quality dvds.
The writing quality on those burners are not as good as some other burners.
Good burners: nec 3500a, pioneer 108, Benq 1620A.

Madcat

I don't think your comment on LG is true. LG actually have better writing quality than a lot of other burners including Sony & Benq.

Click here for review (http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172)

[dmdsoftware2]

Those people at Futureshop are royally getting on my nerves.

I just spoke with a supervisor from their call center who denies have record of my calls this week claiming that I was told I would be contacted in 24-48 hours with an explanation.

Also, when I asked why I have a list of customers who placed orders for the identical product after my order have already received the product, he refused to comment.

Now I'm told to shut up and wait until next week for an update.

[dmdsoftware2]

Also, for all those RFDers who have phoned and been told "it will ship last night", they told me the earliest any DVD-R orders would ship is next week.

[benf]

Those people at Futureshop are royally getting on my nerves.
I just spoke with a supervisor from their call center who denies have record of my calls this week claiming that I was told I would be contacted in 24-48 hours with an explanation.
Also, when I asked why I have a list of customers who placed orders for the identical product after my order have already received the product, he refused to comment.

Just put in another order, if you end up with two, just return one to your local futureshop.

Shipping to you is free, so who cares?

And if you get charged for 2, and only get one, report it to your credit card company as a double bill/theft. They'll get your money back.

[Madcatmk2]

I don't think your comment on LG is true. LG actually have better writing quality than a lot of other burners including Sony & Benq.

Click here for review (http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172)

I talked about the LG GSA-4160B 16x. Sorry, i didn't knew about the new LG GSA-4163B that just got out. The 4163 one is definitely better than its precedessor. Ill check cdrlabs and cdrinfo too, they should have reviews for this drive soon.

Did you knew that sony dvd burners are in fact liteons?
Yup, you pay double for a liteon drive.

Info about liteon and sony's relationship : http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20041111PR200.html
You can use some liteon utilities with sony's DRU-710A :
http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/index.php?reviewid=252&page=Features


Madcat

[Terence]

After the long wait, it finally arrived this afternoon.
Ordered on 12/28/04.....

Good thing is --- it is a 8X DVD-R :lol:

According to Nero, it is a 8X Fujifilm03 core

[sdo]

Well.. the finally shipped my 200 pack of DVD-R's and I will be picking them up from Purolator on my way home.

However, they just emailed to inform me that they CANCELLED my order for the Harmony remote from Dec 25th. What asses. Do I have any recorse here?

Thanks,

s.

[HamsterGirl35]

Thanks, ordered one

[DaVillen]

After calling in last week and having my order fixed, i finnaly got the last 4 orders in the last 2 days. Out of the 8 200 packs i ordered i only got 2 with the sony 8x code and the rest with the fuji. I just hope the sony's are as good as fuji, otherwise im returning them.

[samson]

I just hope the sony's are as good as fuji, otherwise im returning them.


by any chance did you mean it the other way around??

[Cantley]

I placed my second order on January 11th and received my shipping email tonight.

Cantley

[DaVillen]

by any chance did you mean it the other way around??

No, i never tried the sony yet.. and the fuji code gets better reviews from the research i've done.

[HamsterGirl35]

my order is for 4x, but, from reading the replies, it seems like a lot of RFDers rec'd 8x instead? Does everyone get 8x even though it's 4x? Is that true?
I ordered DVD+R.....

After calling in last week and having my order fixed, i finnaly got the last 4 orders in the last 2 days. Out of the 8 200 packs i ordered i only got 2 with the sony 8x code and the rest with the fuji. I just hope the sony's are as good as fuji, otherwise im returning them.

[Cloud]

Has anyone received shattered spindles? I ordered 200 dvd-r and got it today (8x). One spindle was ok, but the other had the plastic casing shattered. I'm not sure if the dvd-r's are ok.

Seeing as FS is currently OOS on the -R, should I keep mine or bring it to a store and refund it? I've also thought about bringing it to a store and asking them to exchange a 100 -R for one on the shelf.

[confused]

Has anyone received shattered spindles? I ordered 200 dvd-r and got it today (8x). One spindle was ok, but the other had the plastic casing shattered. I'm not sure if the dvd-r's are ok.

Seeing as FS is currently OOS on the -R, should I keep mine or bring it to a store and refund it? I've also thought about bringing it to a store and asking them to exchange a 100 -R for one on the shelf.

same situation here on teh +r's

[Cloud]

Well here is the media code from dvdinfopro on my BenQ 200 8X DVD-R.
It is a FUJIFILM03, the UPC is 07284 20269, Made in Taiwain.

Hey Digital Dolphin, or anyone else, I noticed that there are no 8X Write Strategy or OPC fields, only a 8X Write Descriptor. Does this mean it's not a true 8X disc? Does anyone have the Media Information from DVD Info Pro on the Benq 8X DVD-R Sony08D1 discs?

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID FUJIFILM03
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 10 88 78 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 29 82 10 21 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 07 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 96 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 05
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1A
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 96 77 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 7C DF B9 93 11 11
4x Write Strategy field 6 1A AA D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 0C .....@....R.....
00000010 88 88 90 00 03 46 55 4A 49 46 49 00 04 4C 4D 30 .....FUJIFI..LM0
00000020 33 00 00 00 05 B8 83 00 30 00 01 00 06 09 0F 10 3.......0.......

[samson]

Cloud/Da Villen or anyone with BENQ FujiFilmo03 media (-R),

What speeds do you burn at? I tried to Qscan (BENQ softie) and it says not recommended at 8X. I thought i heard people burn at 16X. If you did a qscanm, how were your results??

Thanks

[obi]

i ordered my DVD+ on jan 14th, they were shipped yesterday...hope i get the 8X kind...

[JuNGleR72]

i got the 8x DVD's with Sony media code..

[nafi]

Cloud/Da Villen or anyone with BENQ FujiFilmo03 media (-R),

What speeds do you burn at? I tried to Qscan (BENQ softie) and it says not recommended at 8X. I thought i heard people burn at 16X. If you did a qscanm, how were your results??

Thanks

I burned 2 DVD images of movies at 8x and both didn't work in 2 different DVD players AND my DVD-ROM. Scan comes up with errors right off the bat. So I burned at 4x and it played on all devices. I have a BenQ 1620 with firmware G7H9 and read that it might be a problem with the fw version. Might flash to something newer to see if it makes a difference. Haven't done a PI scan though.

[The Digital Dolphin]

that firmware is FREAKY old! Either use the most recent OEM firmware, or upgrade to the retail firmware by using a third party installer. Your results should change DRAMATICALLY!

[nafi]

that firmware is FREAKY old! Either use the most recent OEM firmware, or upgrade to the retail firmware by using a third party installer. Your results should change DRAMATICALLY!

Yeah just did that, I knew I had to do it ever since I got the drive but was lazy and had no problems so far with media I had which were mainly TY and Maxells. But with the BenQ DVD-R, it was the 1st time I encountered problems, so flashed it to B7P9 and, as u said, it improved all my medias speed as well as fixing my problem with the BenQ FUJIFILM03 at 8x. Just did an image burn at 8x and it played falwlessly on all DVD players I have.

[benf]

Yeah just did that, I knew I had to do it ever since I got the drive but was lazy and had no problems so far with media I had which were mainly TY and Maxells. But with the BenQ DVD-R, it was the 1st time I encountered problems, so flashed it to B7P9 and, as u said, it improved all my medias speed as well as fixing my problem with the BenQ FUJIFILM03 at 8x. Just did an image burn at 8x and it played falwlessly on all DVD players I have.
Still waiting to get a 1620 back from a previous rma, but is a 16x burn more prone to errors than 8x even with high quality media like TYs?

[samson]

nafi/Digital Dolphin,

I have G7P9 FW on my benq 1620. Which would be the best way to upgrade this to B series? I seen couple ways on cdfreaks but what method did you use?

Thanks

[3comman]

i got the 8x DVD's with Sony media code.. (+R) and seem to work fine with 3500a. I have the latest 'official' 2.18 firmware and managed 12X without problems. I did not noticed problems recognising the burned discs, will continue testing ...

I ordered 1 pack of 4x +R on january 5. I called them to be sure that they won't charge 229$ and to confirm the order (ok). Shipped on 11 it was received on 12 to someone else in a computer shop down the street. WTH? I called them back and the "guy" said i don't know and he told me to send an email to service@futureshop.ca . I sent an email asking them if that happens often and also said that it is illegal in canada to send shipment to another address without the authorisation letter from the holder of the visa card. Purolater picked up the package at the end of the day and finaly i got it on the 13th. I never got a reply from the email i sent.

I received 8x +R benqs with "daxon az2" as manufacturer. About 15 discs on each spindle have a visible scratch spot at the end of the surface (after 4000meg) of the recording side. I didn't burned after 4gig on those discs and it works well.

I have bought an oem "real" Nec 3500A not so long ago and it came with the latest 2.18 firmware. It burns it normaly but it has problem recognising the discs after they are burned. It takes 44 seconds! My lite-on dvd-rom takes only 3 sec. hmmm. Burns options for nero with my unhacked 3500a are 2.4x,4x,6x,8x,12x. Some people used an modified firmware and says that it can burn it at 16x with no problems. Please tell me if your nec has problems recognising those burned discs too. thank you

Madcat

edit: I forgot to say that those discs smells awful when you open the spindle.

[Madcatmk2]

my order is for 4x, but, from reading the replies, it seems like a lot of RFDers rec'd 8x instead? Does everyone get 8x even though it's 4x? Is that true?
I ordered DVD+R.....

Please be careful about what people says about burning at 4x etc. Most people don't tell their full story and they messed people up.

What people received

DVD-R
4x BENQ - Sony D04
8x BenQ - Sony D08
8x BenQ - FUJIFILM03

DVD+R

4x BENQ - Daxon AZ1
8x BENQ - Daxon AZ2


I have bought a pack of benq +r and i received 8x BENQ - Daxon AZ2. My nec can burn it at 12x. ok?

Madcat


EDIT: 3comman you received some +R with sony media code? Tell me what is the media code using http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ please.

[426Hemi]

What DVD+R code's are you guys getting with the 200-pack's? Any Fuji's? I've seen a lot of people getting Daxon here...

[OrdG]

3 weeks after orders, one package of DVD-Rs received, FUJI 8X.
Case totally trashed, several discs cracked. :o

[nafi]

nafi/Digital Dolphin,

I have G7P9 FW on my benq 1620. Which would be the best way to upgrade this to B series? I seen couple ways on cdfreaks but what method did you use?

Thanks

I was having the same dilemna this morning... ended up using the "quick" method (remember I'm lazy!). Just download the WinDWFlash.exe and .cvt file of your choice (I used B7P9 from G7H9) from the unnoficial BenQ drivers page.

link (http://dvdpro.club.st/firmware/BENQ_FW.htm)

Worked flawlessly. No backflashing or crossflashing needed! :)

[samson]

I was having the same dilemna this morning... ended up using the "quick" method (remember I'm lazy!). Just download the WinDWFlash.exe and .cvt file of your choice (I used B7P9 from G7H9) from the unnoficial BenQ drivers page.

link (http://dvdpro.club.st/firmware/BENQ_FW.htm)

Worked flawlessly. No backflashing or crossflashing needed! :)


Nafi can u do me a favor and do the qscan using smart scan at 8X and TE/FE test on your dvd-r (fujifilm03). I upgraded to B7P9 but i still get the same, ie, not recommended for burn at 8X.

[HamsterGirl35]

Oh no..........

Did you returned for refund???

3 weeks after orders, one package of DVD-Rs received, FUJI 8X.
Case totally trashed, several discs cracked. :o

[garetjax]

Not sure if mentioned in the thread, but looks like they restocked the +R.. there are 398 avail.

too bad no -R.. >:(

[DaVillen]

my order is for 4x, but, from reading the replies, it seems like a lot of RFDers rec'd 8x instead? Does everyone get 8x even though it's 4x? Is that true?
I ordered DVD+R.....

Most people on here have recieved 8x media instead of 4x.

[DaVillen]

Cloud/Da Villen or anyone with BENQ FujiFilmo03 media (-R),

What speeds do you burn at? I tried to Qscan (BENQ softie) and it says not recommended at 8X. I thought i heard people burn at 16X. If you did a qscanm, how were your results??

Thanks

I only burned at 8x. 16x is too risky and will probably get too many PI errors with errors at the end of the disc. I'm using a Pioneer 108 with a hacked 1.14 firmware and never had luck at 16x, and its not even worth the extra minute.


Im suprised alot of people are getting damaged goods. All the boxes that where shipped to me had that buble rap inside and had nothing wrong with them. I did note that 1 spindle had no plastic wrap around it and it looked opened but they burn so i dont mind.

[bigboy999]

i finally recieved my order on tuesday and they were 8x. just a little off topic but when i was looking online FS hasn't charged my credit card yet, not that i'm complaining or anything but has anyone else had this happen

[akito925]

Not sure if mentioned in the thread, but looks like they restocked the +R.. there are 398 avail.

too bad no -R.. >:(

thye are always on sale.. but not the 200 box.. only the spindle of 100.

[HamsterGirl35]

pls provide link of the spindle of 100, thanks ^_^

thye are always on sale.. but not the 200 box.. only the spindle of 100.

[Ducky]

hi,

if anyone has extra spindles of the benq dvd-r that they don't want or planning to return to the store, PM me...i'm interested...

dvd-r's only please...(cuz it's sold out on FS website and in most/all stores)

[garetjax]

thye are always on sale.. but not the 200 box.. only the spindle of 100.

sure looks like a box of 200 to me.. :?:

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10048426&newdeptid=&catid=12501&logon=&langid=EN&dept=0

[benf]

Some goofballs are trying to sell these on <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=78 target=_blank>ebay</a>.

For the same price they bought them.. PLUS SHIPPING.. hahahaahaa!

http://search.ebay.ca/BenQ-200-Pack_W0QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300QQsatitleZBenQ51Q20 200Q2dPackQQsorecordsperpageZ50

[Ckacke7]

ya

[CSR]

Some goofballs are trying to sell these on <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=78 target=_blank>ebay</a>.

For the same price they bought them.. PLUS SHIPPING.. hahahaahaa!

http://search.ebay.ca/BenQ-200-Pack_W0QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300QQsatitleZBenQ51Q20 200Q2dPackQQsorecordsperpageZ50
Within B.C.
Canada
US 48 States
Worldwide

$15.00
$18.00
$20.00
$35.00

[Madcatmk2]

Lol someone selling it at 80 Cdn plus 15 us shipping and shipping insurance
US $10.00 Required. But he gives 10 free gmail accounts! :lol:

I don't trust <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=78 target=_blank>ebay</a> at all. I think its a place to protect scammers. Am i alone to think this?

[cbsmith]

I just got an email with my tracking number for the order of -rs that I placed on Dec 31. Hopefully they don't arrive damaged.

[hseeng]

I just got an email with my tracking number for the order of -rs that I placed on Dec 31. Hopefully they don't arrive damaged.


Hate to disapoint you. But I ordered mine on the 18th and got them on the 21st. I got them delivered to work but I left for the day before they arrived. Don't know what I got (or didn't get) until Monday.

[weihw]

I received the DVD+R,but I didn't receive the DVD-R disks.I already ordered twenty four days.

[akito925]

hi,

if anyone has extra spindles of the benq dvd-r that they don't want or planning to return to the store, PM me...i'm interested...

dvd-r's only please...(cuz it's sold out on FS website and in most/all stores)

you should of asked a little earilier... I'd have returned about 4 spindles.. lol.

[dmdsoftware2]

I too have ordered in Dec and I too am still waiting for the shipment. Stuck in "released" for 3-4 weeks. I phoned a total of 12 times to the 1800 number and I've received 12 unique excuses from 12 different people why my DVD-R 200 pack has not arrived. :mad:

[HamsterGirl35]

Is it me or is everyone ordering DVD-R....

I ordered DVD+R on 01/20, and got a confirmation email 01/21 that the item is going to be mailed out

Maybe DVD+R is not as popular as DVD-R?

================================================== ====
The following item(s) have shipped and are en-route to you.
Item(s) shipped:
BenQ 200-Pack 4X 4.7GB DVD+R

[dmdsoftware2]

Is it me or is everyone ordering DVD-R....

I ordered DVD+R on 01/20, and got a confirmation email 01/21 that the item is going to be mailed out

Maybe DVD+R is not as popular as DVD-R?

================================================== ====
The following item(s) have shipped and are en-route to you.
Item(s) shipped:
BenQ 200-Pack 4X 4.7GB DVD+R


Two factors:
1) It appears DVD-R is more popular only because many people (like myself) are still waiting for the DVD-R shipments. It appears FS screwed up and has left the DVD-R orders hanging for weeks (my order date backs to 12-30, and I'm still waiting for it to ship). The DVD+R shipments are not plagued with this problem.
2) The sale for the DVD-R has been over for some time now. Only the DVD+R continue to be sold. Thus, there would appear there are more people looking for the DVD-R version because they aren't available.

[trini]

so how long after shipped does this thing reach your house?
Thanks!

[CSR]

Lol someone selling it at 80 Cdn plus 15 us shipping and shipping insurance
US $10.00 Required. But he gives 10 free gmail accounts! :lol:

I don't trust <a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=78 target=_blank>ebay</a> at all. I think its a place to protect scammers. Am i alone to think this?


I'm with u

[ES_Revenge]

Is it me or is everyone ordering DVD-R....

Maybe DVD+R is not as popular as DVD-R?


Yeah I was wondering the same thing. DVD-R is theoretically more compatible with home DVD players I guess, but in this day and age pretty much all DVD players can play all formats without too much trouble. If you have DVD players that are a few years old or more then I'd imagine DVD+R would not work/not work well so perhaps that is why people are trying to get the DVD-R?

[WLJ101]

do you know what is bitsetting? then stick with DVD-R.

[ES_Revenge]

do you know what is bitsetting? then stick with DVD-R.

Yeah sure, but even bitsetting can't "save" you sometimes as I've read that bitsetting (which effectively changes what the DVD player reads the disc format as being) can't make a disc readable on som DVD players.

From what I understand, using bitsetting to change a +R identifier really only works when the DVD player specifically prohibits +R playback as part of its firmware routine... It still doesn't make up for the pickup being unable to read the disc properly.

[HamsterGirl35]

I read from one article that Sony DVD players is more compatible with DVD+R? Am I wrong about it?

My Sony is probably 2-3 yrs old at least........ (really hope I don't get the wrong DVD media for burning.....)


Yeah I was wondering the same thing. DVD-R is theoretically more compatible with home DVD players I guess, but in this day and age pretty much all DVD players can play all formats without too much trouble. If you have DVD players that are a few years old or more then I'd imagine DVD+R would not work/not work well so perhaps that is why people are trying to get the DVD-R?

[samson]

so how long after shipped does this thing reach your house?
Thanks!


Takes a day to toronto after you get your tracking #. So if you get a tracking # on monday evening, you will get it on tue.

[ES_Revenge]

I read from one article that Sony DVD players is more compatible with DVD+R? Am I wrong about it?

My Sony is probably 2-3 yrs old at least........ (really hope I don't get the wrong DVD media for burning.....)

Hmm I'm not sure, but I thought they would be more compatible with -R... What is the model number on your Sony?

To be more certain you can check user reports at this site:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

Just type in your model number in the box there and click search. It should come up as there are thousands of models listed.

Users post reports on what works and doesn't with particular model players, so you can get a good idea what works on your specific model(s) you plan on using the media in.

[HamsterGirl35]

Here's the spec on mine:

It seems that it would take both?? I hope......
Someone, pls help.....^_^
================================================== ==
Sony DVP-NS400D
DVD Player CDR
CDRW DVD-R
DVD-RW DVD+R
DVD+RW VCD
SVCD DivX
JPG MP3
WMA Price Rating
Info Reports
Comments
Sony DVP-NS400D CDR
CDRW DVD-R
DVD-RW DVD+R
DVD+RW
DVD+R DL VCD
SVCD
DivX
JPG MP3
WMA $90
8.2 (8.3)
63 votes
View 80
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More Features:
Video formats:
SVCD, SVCDSubs, SVCDTracks
DVD-SVCD, CVD
DivX, DivXSubs?
JPG, DVD-JPG?
XVCD max 3250kbit/s
XSVCD
MPEGISO, DVD-MPEGISO?
miniDVD/cDVD
Audio formats:
MP3, DVD-MP3
MP3 long filename, MP3 ID3 TAG
WMA, DVD-WMA
Other features:
Progressive scanning
DVD-VHS Combo
Region code hack here
DVD-RAM?
Multisystem PAL/N<a href=../autolink/redirectpage.php?linkid=140 target=_blank>TSC</a> Convert
Portable DVD Player
DVD-TV Combo
Ethernet connection
Home Cinema System
DVD Recorder
DVI/HDMI Output
DVD Changer

[HamsterGirl35]

wow, it seems both DVR-R and DVR+R are sold out again.....that's amazing...

[ES_Revenge]

Here's the spec on mine:
It seems that it would take both?? I hope......


Yep, looks like both -R/-RW +R/+RW work with the NS400D... Whatever is greyed out or crossed out indicates what the player CANNOT do. Those in black print are what has been tested to work with the player.

Just from looking at the reviews though, it seems a lot of ppl have comments like "played everything I threw at it" which is good. Seems the ppl that have the player swear by it, so its a decent unit indeed.

You should be in the clear to use either format (+/-R) without any problems :)

[HamsterGirl35]

Thanks a lot ES_Revenge for confirming this for me..... Now I guess I have less worry while waiting for my package to arrive...^_^
Big relief offloaded my head....thanks a lot ^_^

HamsterGirl35

Yep, looks like both -R/-RW +R/+RW work with the NS400D... Whatever is greyed out or crossed out indicates what the player CANNOT do. Those in black print are what has been tested to work with the player.

Just from looking at the reviews though, it seems a lot of ppl have comments like "played everything I threw at it" which is good. Seems the ppl that have the player swear by it, so its a decent unit indeed.

You should be in the clear to use either format (+/-R) without any problems :)

[nafi]

Nafi can u do me a favor and do the qscan using smart scan at 8X and TE/FE test on your dvd-r (fujifilm03). I upgraded to B7P9 but i still get the same, ie, not recommended for burn at 8X.

I just redid some scans with Smartscan and all of them came through as not recommended. Weird as the first few I burned are ok and played well. I'll have to sacrifice-burn one that came up as not recommended to see if it's playable. I'll let ya know. May have to upgrade to B7T9?

[shawbros88]

Yeah sure, but even bitsetting can't "save" you sometimes as I've read that bitsetting (which effectively changes what the DVD player reads the disc format as being) can't make a disc readable on som DVD players.You've "read"? Sounds like you haven't tried it.

From what I understand, using bitsetting to change a +R identifier really only works when the DVD player specifically prohibits +R playback as part of its firmware routine... It still doesn't make up for the pickup being unable to read the disc properly.DVD players do not specifically inhibit +R in their firmware, older players simply don't have it implemented because +R didn't exist at the time. I can tell you from experience that I've encountered many players that won't play -R but have never found any that won't play +R discs with the booktype set to DVD-ROM.

[The Digital Dolphin]

I just redid some scans with Smartscan and all of them came through as not recommended. Weird as the first few I burned are ok and played well. I'll have to sacrifice-burn one that came up as not recommended to see if it's playable. I'll let ya know. May have to upgrade to B7T9?

"not recommended" does not mean "not playable after burning".

[ES_Revenge]

You've "read"? Sounds like you haven't tried it.


Right, but I dunno what the point of stating the obvious is... I'm sure that people who have tried it and reported on it aren't falsely reporting that it didn't work... Seems it affects consoles like PS2/Xbox the most though.

I'm not saying bitsetting isn't going to work, I'm just saying it isn't 100% guaranteed to work...

[nafi]

"not recommended" does not mean "not playable after burning".

As u said. Playable even though not recommended, upgraded to B7T9, doesn't change the verdict of QScan Smartscan. Did the FULL scan and verdict is OK to write at 8x. I think it's becuz smartscan concentrates on one adress at the outer part of the disc for its result. I'll let people whose lives revolve around recordable media chime in on that. ;)

I won't be relying on these discs to save important data, but at 30¢ each they'll be getting their fair share of burns from me. :twisted:

[Philip_69]

Hi guys,

I've just recieved a patch of 200 BenQ 8X DVD+R from Futureshop. Media code is Daxon AZ2. My DVD burner is NEC 2500A, flashed to Harrie's 1.07 firmware last year. I've been burning 4X Ritek RitekG04 at 8X with 100% successful rate. However, the burner can only burn these new BenQ at 4X, do you know why this is happening? Do I need to upgrade a new firmware?

Thanks for the help.

[kiasu]

hi,

if anyone has extra spindles of the benq dvd-r that they don't want or planning to return to the store, PM me...i'm interested...

dvd-r's only please...(cuz it's sold out on FS website and in most/all stores)

Ducky, you still need one?

I received mine and have extra spindle...anyone still need it? BenQ DVD-R 8X and BenQ DVD-R 4X
PM pls ASAP..only for GTA...else I will refund...

[The Digital Dolphin]

Hi guys,

I've just recieved a patch of 200 BenQ 8X DVD+R from Futureshop. Media code is Daxon AZ2. My DVD burner is NEC 2500A, flashed to Harrie's 1.07 firmware last year. I've been burning 4X Ritek RitekG04 at 8X with 100% successful rate. However, the burner can only burn these new BenQ at 4X, do you know why this is happening? Do I need to upgrade a new firmware?

Thanks for the help.

Didn't NEC release a newer firmware for that drive? The media code is REALLY new, so probably herrie's firmware is based on a firmware that had no support for that code at all. Try the latest official release for those discs until Herrie has time to patch it.

[madman604]

i still dont have mine :(

bump cuz im pi$$ed!

[Madcatmk2]

yeah, I was trying to find some info on my NEC 2500A dilema but gave up after page 15 :cheesygri . So here's the same question I posted in the other thead:

Hi guys,

I've just recieved a patch of 200 BenQ 8X DVD+R from Futureshop. Media code is Daxon AZ2. My DVD burner is NEC 2500A, flashed to Harrie's 1.07 firmware last year. I've been burning 4X Ritek RitekG04 at 8X with 100% successful rate. However, the burner can only burn these new BenQ at 4X, do you know why this is happening? Do I need to upgrade a new firmware?

Thanks for the help.

Any help would be appreciated.

Your firmware is old.


http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/index.html

Herrie
xx0v3-2.rar NEC ND-25x0A 2.18 v3 Final Test 2, supports +R(W) and +R DL bitsetting and DL burning for both 2500 & 2510! (NEW 11-01-2005) More info can be found here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=122096



Madcat

[bug]

Just got my order this morning. 2 x 200 8x dvd+r's. With the 400 8x dvd-r's I got during boxing week special, I should have enough for a while :lol:
Has anyone else got theirs with broken spindles too? Discs arent damaged though, so no big deal. They should really put some packing in the box between the 2 spindles.

[dmdsoftware2]

i still dont have mine :(

bump cuz im pi$$ed!

I'm on the same boat.

[plissken]

just got mine today, 200 DVD+R 8x will get back with media codes once they thaw out. I also have a cracked spindle base and I know someone who can't close the cake box anymore, it was so badly damaged.

The small cardboard cut outs should be in the middle of two cake boxes to prevent shifting during frieght. At the bottom they just get ripped and the cake boxes smash into each other. At least that's what mine look like.

[426Hemi]

Ducky, you still need one?

I received mine and have extra spindle...anyone still need it? BenQ DVD-R 8X and BenQ DVD-R 4X
PM pls ASAP..only for GTA...else I will refund...

I'm also looking for a BenQ DVD-R spindle...anyone else selling? PM me! :cheesygri

[Kinki]

i just got mine! i don't even have a dvd burner yet :p (suppose to be a bday gift). anyone want to split a 8x DVD+R spindle with me? i doubt i'll use all 200! 100 will be plenty for me.

[wpgguy99]

Got mine.

Spindles smashed. A few of the dvd's even spilled out.

Kind of unprofessional on their part.

However the disks look like nice quality to me. I like the surface on them (Not the usual shiny stuff).

All in all I'll just keep em. I don't even think I'll bother to complain, cause I'm sure they don't care at this point from what I am reading in this forum :(

Also even factoring the few dodgy ones, and the broken spindles still a heck of a deal.

[Philip_69]

Your firmware is old.


http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/index.html

Herrie
xx0v3-2.rar NEC ND-25x0A 2.18 v3 Final Test 2, supports +R(W) and +R DL bitsetting and DL burning for both 2500 & 2510! (NEW 11-01-2005) More info can be found here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=122096



Madcat

Yeah, thanks. I just flashed the new firmware but still have the same problem. The discs are recognized as 4X by Nero. Beore I go to FS to return the cakes, can anyone who has the same DVD burner + bought the BenQ discs confirm this please ?

Thanks

[Madcatmk2]

Yeah, thanks. I just flashed the new firmware but still have the same problem. The discs are recognized as 4X by Nero. Beore I go to FS to return the cakes, can anyone who has the same DVD burner + bought the BenQ discs confirm this please ?

Thanks

I hope you did a hard boot after you flashed it.
Also, can you tell us what is the media code on those discs using http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ . thank you

[DarkAbyss]

anyone in vancouver willing to split a 100 spindle?? i dun like ordering off internet ;/

oh ya for those for ordered in vancouver.. what did FS ship it by?? and if you weren't home.. did they just leave the package by the doorstep? or do they require someone to sign it??

last time i ordered something expensive.. all they did was put it by my doorstep.. not safe ;/

[Eluder]

@Kinki, check your PMs please.

i just got mine! i don't even have a dvd burner yet :p (suppose to be a bday gift). anyone want to split a 8x DVD+R spindle with me? i doubt i'll use all 200! 100 will be plenty for me.

[ltp2k3]

Got mine.

Spindles smashed. A few of the dvd's even spilled out.

Kind of unprofessional on their part.

However the disks look like nice quality to me. I like the surface on them (Not the usual shiny stuff).

All in all I'll just keep em. I don't even think I'll bother to complain, cause I'm sure they don't care at this point from what I am reading in this forum :(

Also even factoring the few dodgy ones, and the broken spindles still a heck of a deal.

plastic wraps on both of my spindles were ripped. The covers weren't tight, just losely sitting on top. They have big air bubbles filled up the box so I doubt it was shipping problem. Damn, maybe they collected all the returns and stacked them together and sent them out. Should I start counting the discs and perhaps check if they all are blanks?

[Chew]

they send it by purolator, i think they try 2 days within a day and if no one picks it up. You have to pick it up at the nearest purolator depot


anyone in vancouver willing to split a 100 spindle?? i dun like ordering off internet ;/

oh ya for those for ordered in vancouver.. what did FS ship it by?? and if you weren't home.. did they just leave the package by the doorstep? or do they require someone to sign it??

last time i ordered something expensive.. all they did was put it by my doorstep.. not safe ;/

[takumi86]

Wow it took them almost a month to receive my BenQ 200 DVD-R. However after checking the media code I was happy because it's FUJIFILM03 which I heard is a prodisc made for FUJIFILM. I'm glad I got mine a bit later. That's all. Thanks for the deal.

[The Digital Dolphin]

Wow it took them almost a month to receive my BenQ 200 DVD-R. However after checking the media code I was happy because it's FUJIFILM03 which I heard is a prodisc made for FUJIFILM. I'm glad I got mine a bit later. That's all. Thanks for the deal.

hrm... that's all based on assumption... :confused:

[charger]

Such a good price, but I really don't need 200 DVD's, I guess I should get on the phone with some friends.

[Ducky]

Ducky, you still need one?

I received mine and have extra spindle...anyone still need it? BenQ DVD-R 8X and BenQ DVD-R 4X
PM pls ASAP..only for GTA...else I will refund...

check your PM

[tmleafs26]

I just checked the futureshop.ca website, and it shows they are taking orders on the DVD+r's, and will ship when available. They also show 42 units available, so not sure? But I did place an order. So if you want them, go and get'em.

[Madcatmk2]

Wow it took them almost a month to receive my BenQ 200 DVD-R. However after checking the media code I was happy because it's FUJIFILM03 which I heard is a prodisc made for FUJIFILM. I'm glad I got mine a bit later. That's all. Thanks for the deal.


hrm... that's all based on assumption... :confused:

Agreed.

Got any answers yet? I have the feeling that they are hidding something.

[chellemi]

i ordered BenQ 200-Pack 4X 4.7GB DVD-R on december 30th, received them via purolator on january 24th :p took long enough! i actually didn't even get notification that it had shipped... oh yeah, and they turned out to be 8X. although the box is DEFINITELY too big for the two spindles, they weren't damaged at all and the plastic was still on them. :D

anyway i'm supposed to split the 200 discs with my friend but i haven't been able to contact her lately so if i still can't after a few more days i'll ask if anybody here wants to split.

[d.lu]

the -R's is removed from the website!!!! Hope they're still planning on selling them.

[HamsterGirl35]

Wow, you are right, the -Rs are even removed from my wish list.......

But, check the +Rs info:
>>>>Taking Orders: Will ship when available
>>>> Quantity Remaining: 297

Strange that they said they have remaining but WILL SHIP WHEN AVAILABLE.....weird


the -R's is removed from the website!!!! Hope they're still planning on selling them.

[madman604]

"Shipment delayed due to weather"

MOTHERFU..............http://forums.redflagdeals.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[d.lu]

Wow, you are right, the -Rs are even removed from my wish list.......

But, check the +Rs info:
>>>>Taking Orders: Will ship when available
>>>> Quantity Remaining: 297

Strange that they said they have remaining but WILL SHIP WHEN AVAILABLE.....weird

that means they didnt recieve manufacture shipment yet. but shipment is coming in.

[426Hemi]

Anyone selling one of their spindles? PM me if you are :razz:

[akito925]

i ordered BenQ 200-Pack 4X 4.7GB DVD-R on december 30th, received them via purolator on january 24th :p took long enough! i actually didn't even get notification that it had shipped... oh yeah, and they turned out to be 8X. although the box is DEFINITELY too big for the two spindles, they weren't damaged at all and the plastic was still on them. :D

anyway i'm supposed to split the 200 discs with my friend but i haven't been able to contact her lately so if i still can't after a few more days i'll ask if anybody here wants to split.

thats why I'd bought it instore. on boxing day.. I'd had to wait in long line ups! but hey! I got what I'd wanted! hehe.

[The Digital Dolphin]

Agreed.

Got any answers yet? I have the feeling that they are hidding something.

Things work slowly some times... I'm still working on it, don't worry :)

One thng I *have* heard (not from Daxon) is that in early January they only had 2 million discs left... I think they may just be out of 8x DVD-Rs at the moment. The FujiFilm03 media was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media. Still, this is only speculation based on some information I have received from a few different non-official sources. Hopefully I'll know the official reasons soon! ;-)

[madman604]

1 box finally arrived today, everything is hunky dory.

still waiting for the 2nd box tho. recieved a box of 8X dvd-r. I will check the codes when i get home. :cheesygri

centres are stamped with fr02-1610-4236

[Philip_69]

I hope you did a hard boot after you flashed it.
Also, can you tell us what is the media code on those discs using http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ . thank you

Yeah, I did the hard boot, but no luck. I'm gonna have to return these bastards. Too bad, 'cause they're good deal. Anyway, the media code i got using DVD Identifier is:


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:DAXON-AZ2-000]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [Not Available]
Manufacturer Name : [Daxon Technology Inc.]
Manufacturer ID : [DAXON]
Media Type ID : [AZ2]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 44 41 58 4f 4e 00 00 00 41 5a 32 00 38 ...DAXON...AZ2.8
0020 : 23 54 37 11 00 56 71 00 be 6b 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7..Vq..k......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1c 01 ..88.)`8.0".. ..
0050 : 00 00 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1c 01 00 00 ...)`8.0".. ....
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 40 64 4a 22 15 0a 09 01 20 00 00 ..Tp.@dJ".... ..
0070 : 00 00 02 51 64 46 22 14 08 08 01 20 00 00 00 28 ...QdF".... ...(
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hope this help. Again, I'd appreciate it if anyone could help me with this problem.

Cheers

[bluetroll]

got my dvds.... dam they look fancy.

[synaptech]

Hope this help. Again, I'd appreciate it if anyone could help me with this problem.

Cheers

Philip, I'm running the same burner and I have flashed to the latest BIOS posted above. I am still waiting for my pack to arrive... I ordered, then cancelled, and ordered again (200 seems like too much)... anyway, I can report my results to see if we can find a resolution.

[simplyno]

just got my order of 200 benq dvd-r's yesterday....after a month of waiting for them

well anyways, they sent me 8x's and the ID is SONY08D1
DVD decryptor says they'll burn at 16x with my DVR-108 but I think I'll burn them at 12x or so

[laptop-tech]

in case anybody wants 100, I got some -R here...PM me...

200 it too much for my needs....lol...

[Madcatmk2]

Yeah, I did the hard boot, but no luck. I'm gonna have to return these bastards. Too bad, 'cause they're good deal.



You are not the only one who have this problem with their 2500:


"
www.videohelp.com/
Comments posted by SKiNFreak, November 03, 2004: No comments

You are not the only one with that problem
Additional information:
Burnt with NEC ND-2500A at 2.4x using firmware 1.07.
Burning reliability is Good.
PC reliability is Good.
DVD reliability is Good.
Media color is White Turquoise.
Media text is BENQ 8x DVD+R 4.7GB Data 120min Video.
Media package type is Cake Box. Number of discs 25.
Authoring/Burning comments:
Used Nero Recode 2 to backup the Star Wars trilogy....work flawlessly. Seem to be high quality. NOTE: Used compatability mode in NERO so the burn speed was reduced.
Works fine on Toshiba SD330E
"

"
club.cdfreaks.com/ (nec forum)

boss126
CD Freaks Rookie

daxon 8x only 4x
hi
i have a nec2500, and despite trying every firmware, these discs only write at 4x using generic strategy, which is horrible.
i wondered if anybody could customise a firmware for me to include this.
thanks for any help.

answer:

rolling56
CD Freaks Die Hard

Re: daxon 8x only 4x
Don't think anyone is working on 2500 or 2510's f/w anymore now that the 3500 is out.
"


Its Nec fault for not updating their firmware.


If it cheers you up, i only burn these discs at 4x using my nec 3500a for best possible quality burn. (i can burn them at 12x)

[madman604]

the dvd-r's i got are Fuji

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID FUJIFILM03
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 412352512
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 0F
2x Write Strategy field 1 10 88 78 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 29 82 10 21 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 05
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 07 07
4x Write Strategy field 2 96 06 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 05
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1A
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 96 77 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 7C DF B9 93 11 11
4x Write Strategy field 6 1A AA D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 88 0D 0C .l...@....R.....
00000010 88 88 90 00 03 46 55 4A 49 46 49 00 04 4C 4D 30 .....FUJIFI..LM0
00000020 33 00 00 00 05 B8 83 00 30 00 01 00 06 09 0F 10 3.......0.......

[synaptech]

You are not the only one who have this problem with their 2500:


"
www.videohelp.com/
Comments posted by SKiNFreak, November 03, 2004: No comments

<snip>



The new firmware is newer and according to its notes (http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2x00/v3-2rel.txt) it "Used MCC 003 @ 8x as default strategy for 'unsupported' media". I don't see DAXON in the 'supported' list so it should be doing 8x. (shouldn't it?) Perhaps herrie can/will release another?

[hky77]

I received my benq dvd-r's from futureshop today, even though the order was placed back on Dec 31st. When I opened the box, I found out they were 4X media when I was expecting 8X.

I opened the box and found that that both spindles were damaged pretty badly. Suffice to say, I returned them to FS without any issues.

[dmdsoftware2]

I received my Benq 200 DVD-R order today (29 days after I ordered it).

Worth the wait (I guess) since I ended up with the 8x discs. No broken spindles or damage in general.

[madman604]

recieved my 2nd box today, its all 4X :( poop.

no broken box or nothing tho :)

[mahjongmaniac]

WOW....

FS must be really wanting to get rid of 4X stock.... \

this deal and restocks have been goin on since xmas.....

their 8X stock must be comin in very soon..... :D

[HamsterGirl35]

Hey, I got an email about DVD info: (Sorry, I don't have any link for this, it's just copy/paste from my email......)

Anyone know what is Blu-Ray ?
Is this info that I got true? (I didn't check google yet...)

HamsterGirl35

================================================== ===========
What's Blu-ray, and why is Ray so sad?
While Sony came up short with Beta, it's got the best chance to come out on top in the new disc war. Blu-ray discs hold 50 gigabytes of storage -- more than 10 times the storage of today's popular DVD disc -- and nearly twice as much as the 30-gig capacity of HD-DVD.

The Battle
Format Storage
DVD 4.7 gigs
HD-DVD 30 gigs
Blu-ray 50 gigs

================================================== ===========

WOW....

FS must be really wanting to get rid of 4X stock.... \

this deal and restocks have been goin on since xmas.....

their 8X stock must be comin in very soon..... :D

[madman604]

conventional cdroms use red lasers, blu-ray is a blue laser which is more focused and narrower giving the ability to write HUGE amounts of DAT onto standard sized DVD-Rs. like 25 GB or more VS 4.7 GB now.

[dmdsoftware2]

Hey, I got an email about DVD info: (Sorry, I don't have any link for this, it's just copy/paste from my email......)

Anyone know what is Blu-Ray ?
Is this info that I got true? (I didn't check google yet...)

HamsterGirl35

================================================== ===========
What's Blu-ray, and why is Ray so sad?
While Sony came up short with Beta, it's got the best chance to come out on top in the new disc war. Blu-ray discs hold 50 gigabytes of storage -- more than 10 times the storage of today's popular DVD disc -- and nearly twice as much as the 30-gig capacity of HD-DVD.

The Battle
Format Storage
DVD 4.7 gigs
HD-DVD 30 gigs
Blu-ray 50 gigs

================================================== ===========


Everything you wanted to know, and more.... www.blu-ray.com

[dmdsoftware2]

I think they may just be out of 8x DVD-Rs at the moment. The FujiFilm03 media was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media.

Think again, I just got my DVD-R order today and it was 8X - so your theory doesn't hold.

Looks like the type of DVD-R you will receive is purely random.

[Madcatmk2]

The new firmware is newer and according to its notes (http://herrie.rpc1.org/downloads/2x00/v3-2rel.txt) it "Used MCC 003 @ 8x as default strategy for 'unsupported' media". I don't see DAXON in the 'supported' list so it should be doing 8x. (shouldn't it?) Perhaps herrie can/will release another?

nec 25x0a.
This list are only for changes and added media by Herrie. The supported list is
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=601118&postcount=34
search for daxon az2 (benq +R 8x):
44 41 58 4f 4e 00 00 00 41 5a 32 00 01 -> [DAXON AZ2 ] 2.4 4.0

It still nec fault for not updating their 25x0 firmwares.

You could ask Herrie to add 8x cav strategy to it. mailto:herrie@rpc1.org

Good luck

[Madcatmk2]

Think again, I just got my DVD-R order today and it was 8X - so your theory doesn't hold.

Looks like the type of DVD-R you will receive is purely random.


Dolphin was talking to me. Sorry, i should had send an PM to him instead of posting my question here. Not everyone knows what we are talking about.


Translation:
One thing I *have* heard (not from Daxon) is that in early January they only had 2 million discs left... Daxon(Benq) may be out of stock of their own 8x DVD-R (media code Sony D08) for the moment. The Benq 8x DVD-R (media code FujiFilm03) was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media. Still, this is only speculation based on some information I have received from a few different non-official sources.
Hopefully I'll know the official reasons soon! ;-)


OK?

[dmdsoftware2]

Dolphin was talking to me. Sorry, i should had send an PM to him instead of posting my question here. Not everyone knows what we are talking about.


Translation:
One thing I *have* heard (not from Daxon) is that in early January they only had 2 million discs left... Daxon(Benq) may be out of stock of their own 8x DVD-R (media code Sony D08) for the moment. The Benq 8x DVD-R (media code FujiFilm03) was probably brought in to fullfill a prior commitment, and now they are possibly waiting for finish production of their next batch of media. Still, this is only speculation based on some information I have received from a few different non-official sources.
Hopefully I'll know the official reasons soon! ;-)


OK?

Ah, okay... it sounded like he was saying that they were shipping out the crappy 4x fujifilm media discs instead of the 8x to the latest DVD-R orders.

[Philip_69]

Philip, I'm running the same burner and I have flashed to the latest BIOS posted above. I am still waiting for my pack to arrive... I ordered, then cancelled, and ordered again (200 seems like too much)... anyway, I can report my results to see if we can find a resolution.

Thanks you and Madcatmk2 for the input, I decide to keep the discs anyway, price is too good to pass :). An extra 8 min. of burning wont kill me, plus I guess burnign at 4X would yield a better quanlity, wouldnt it? I dont donate to Herrie, so emailing him asking for a specific problem is kinda rude. Hopefully NEC will release a updated firmware for the 2500A in the near future.

Cheers.

[madman604]

the 4 X media i recieved today

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID SONY04D1
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 11
2x Write Strategy field 1 11 87 78 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 A8 82 00 20 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 06
4x Speed OPC power 17
4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 0F 0B 0B
4x Write Strategy field 2 98 08 0F 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1C
4x Write Strategy field 4 15 97 77 75
4x Write Strategy field 5 98 AB 88 80 00 00
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0E 11 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 34 00 04 44 31 00 fx...SONY04..D1.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 11 11 ........ .......

[HamsterGirl35]

Yeah!!! rec'd my order today ^_^
Ordered Date: 01/20/05
Rec'd Date: 01/27/05

I got 8X...^_^

it's interesting how they wrote in the packing slip:
BENQ 200 PCS DVD+R(4X OR 8X )

Ha....still quite happy that my spindles weren't cracked at all....^_^
*** happy happy ***

I don't have any burner yet....so, I dont' know what type of dvd media would it show.....
I'll have to bring it to friend's place to backup my dvd movies and maybe will find out what type that is.....(there's no way to find out without putting into burner, right?)

Thanks again for the deal....quite happy ^_^

[mprielozny]

I received my order today.

Got 400 of these 8x DvD+R AZ02. Should last me at least 3-4 months.

there were minor nick on the bottom of the case but I dont give a damn.

what I was wondering.

1620 can burn this at 16x no problem. how do I check the Q of the burn.

I was even thinking that screw it will burn only at 8x it saves only 2mins anywyas.

16x burn took 6:07
8x burn took 8:27

my 107D usually burned 4x media in 15:42
so nice upgrade.

[g_goo_goo]

Got the 200 pack today too! I don't see any damage on the box, or the spindles.

What a deal for $59.99, they are indeed DVD+R 8X... I guess futureshop has run out of 4X...

DAXON DVD+R AZ2

BENQ DW-1620 will burn at 16X, QScan reports that it recommends only burning at 8X (let me know if you've had good burns at 16X)
NEC 3500A will burn at 12X
PIONEER DVR-108 will burn at 8X

[The Digital Dolphin]

I highly recommend NOT burning these faster then 12x max (and generally I don't recommend overclocking media anyways!).

I've had issues with this media burned at 16x on my BenQ DW1620... just fyi.

[Madcatmk2]

Its for those who received Fujifilm03 for their Benqs DVD-R 8x.

The Digital Dolphin
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showpost.php?p=1288000&postcount=1183


Ok... I've received word from Daxon Taiwan now.

It was pretty limited, but they were able to confirm a couple things for me:

#1: Daxon does NOT make FUJIFILM03 media
#2: Daxon has purchased FUJIFILM03 media in the past
#3: Daxon ONLY purchased FUJIFILM03 media because they didn't have enough of their own media to fill an order
#4: Daxon is confident that the media is of equivilant quality to their own

They did not confirm that it was purchased from Prodisc... it may have been purchased through Fuji actually (although, it might still be Prodisc media then).

Personally, if the media WAS made by Prodisc (still not 100% sure) I do not believe it is of equivilant quality, but that was a marketing statement on their part I think anyways. Prodisc is becoming quite well known for their 8x DVD-R screwups, and I would rather use Acro Circle (Optodisc) media then Prodisc for 8x DVD-Rs any day!!


Madcatmk2:
I consider [for now] Daxon(Benq) -8x(SonyD08 media code) higher quality than fujifilm03. This is what i found with videohelp.com . This could change with time though.

Fujifilm -R 8x bad results with many burners
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2072#comments
Same thing
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2626#comments
I searched for prodiscs too and the results looks much like the fuji one,
(sometimes its good, sometimes its bad).


Benq -R 8x Sony
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2268#comments
Some LG's have probems with this benq with exception of 4163B:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172/6


Madcat

[aphextwin2050]

Its for those who received Fujifilm03 for their Benqs DVD-R 8x.

The Digital Dolphin
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/showpost.php?p=1288000&postcount=1183




Madcatmk2:
I consider [for now] Daxon(Benq) -8x(SonyD08 media code) higher quality than fujifilm03. This is what i found with videohelp.com . This could change with time though.

Fujifilm -R 8x bad results with many burners
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2072#comments
Same thing
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2626#comments
I searched for prodiscs too and the results looks much like the fuji one,
(sometimes its good, sometimes its bad).


Benq -R 8x Sony
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=2268#comments
Some LG's have probems with this benq with exception of 4163B:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/172/6


Madcat

And to add to this, not to try to confuse people even more, but I've also found some sites saying that the FUJIFILM03s are nothing but great disks and comparably rank up there with the grade A media.

FUJIFILM03 8x - PIONEER 108 VS NEC-3500 (apparently NEC's do not like FUJI's) (http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=96)

GOOD REVIEWS (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?selectmedia=1881#comments)

Another one with good results on the FUJIFILM03 (http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Reviews+index-req-showcontent-id-127.phtml)

Another set of nice results from about 15 people all saying the media is good with good readability/quality all around (http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=112)

eg.
Manufacturer : FUJIFILM03
Disc Type : DVD-R
Usage : General
Recording Speed : 1 X - 8 X

1st disc was a PS2 backup 2.4Gb which took 5mins 54secs to burn - tried disc on 2 modded PS2's with no problems whatsoever and 1 of the PS2's is especially picky and only likes Riteks so a + there! Disc was very quick to load and very quiet unlike some other discs that spin forever and the noise is terrible!

2nd disc was a movie backup 4.26Gb which took just over 9mins to burn - tried this disc on both PS2's and Pioneer 747A DVD player and Pioneer DVR3100 DVD Recorder and Pioneer DVR107 burner - all players played the disc perfectly - the PS2's I was especially pleased with as movie usually go "blocky" after a while and especially towards the end.

All chapter skipping, menus, languages, subtitles, etc were perfect and access was very quick.

Conclusion
Compared to my usual Datasafe Ritek G04's I would have to say that this disc has compared more favourably IMHO. I will definitely be investing in more of these.

---------------------------
So in the end, as dvd-r's themselves are picky.....don't know really what to tell anyone cept if you burn, and you run your pi/po tests and it comes back good...then you have good media..regardless of whether its ritek, TY and so forth.

[dmdsoftware2]

I received another 200 pack of 8x DVD+Rs today that were backordered.