PSP or DS?

[xpoint9]

hey sup people I was just wondering, how many people here like PSP or DS?

I prefer PSP,
Dose neone have a picture of the psp with actual size?

[Carnage]

I chose the DS.

Mainly because I read that PSP's were being shipped with numerous defects.

[sleepyguy]

DS here as well. I believe Ninetendo has been in the 'handheld' market long enough to know what their doing. I'll wait for Sony 2nd or 3rd generation handheld to 'jump' in the waters :)

[CodecX81]

Considering this is only system #3 for Sony, they are still a baby compared to a giant like Nintendo. The defects are only there due to a race on Christmas rush. (I assume Christmas is large in Japan, with their large populous of Christians?)

So, although they are going to have some hurdles to overcome.. Agreeing with sleepyguy, PSP might not be the best-ever system. But it will bring something new to the table. For that alone, I vote PSP for inginuity.

Those bugs will be fixed with their next handheld release, and I will continue to be happy, as long as Squeenix, Konami & Capcom exist.

[Carnage]

DS here as well. I believe Ninetendo has been in the 'handheld' market long enough to know what their doing. I'll wait for Sony 2nd or 3rd generation handheld to 'jump' in the waters :)

I take that aproach with all systems.

I learned my lesson with my playstion witch died withine hours of taking it out of the box, and the replacement unit which had major flaws(now a paper weight). And my dreamcast which was DOA.

It's always a good idea to wait a year or so before buying a console. launch consols almost always have flaws that are fixed in the first year.

[CodecX81]

I learned my lesson with my playstion witch died withine hours of taking it out of the box, and the replacement unit which had major flaws(now a paper weight).

Picture this:
Christmas 1997...
16yo CodecX
New Playstation...
Final Fantasy VII...

Playing all day, all evening and at 3 am, getting out of Midgar, but having to use 3 cold-compress icepacks underneath and around the system to keep the cdrom chugging through the motorcycle FMV.

Delirious, yet accomplished. Bed time, to wake up later to start it all again.
I also remember by New Years Eve, I was just past where Aeris died. Disc 2.

[Carnage]

What really annoyed me was that it took 2 weeks to get a replacement unit(due to everything being sold out).

I finally mange to snag a replacement unit and the guy tells me, "Oh you it might started to work if you turned it upside down and shook it.". Yeah like I was going to do that to a $500 video game system. ;)

And actually supposedly the problem that finally killed my system could be fixed by running it upside down. Though when the knob that holds the CD in place isn't stuck down the CD would just fall off when turned upside down.

[Headhunter]

How can so many people like a hardware platform that isn't out, and will be in extremely limited supply upon release?

[babaji]

I will rather have a DS because:

-it has 2 screens
-one of the screens are touch sensitive
-the games appeal to me more
-built in microphone
-clam shell design
-Nintendo as its developper (we can always trust Nintendo)
-a lot cheaper than the psp
-psp has load times when you start the game, and when you are playing
-psp has a low battery life
-sony will make you buy accesories that should have been on the system (microphone, high end memory sticks, battery packs, etc)(thats already an extra $50 at least)

and for these reasons i like DS>PSP

[bboy_random]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/ipodlounge_sonypsp29.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/psp-release3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/psp-eiyuu.jpg

PSP screen > Both of NDS screens :)
sexy sexy sexy
ill be picking up my psp in march for sure. getting one for 700 dollars off ebay right now is too much.

[chatbox]

That screen looks really Good!!!

[RedLightning]

Go, shuriken launcher! (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/umd/fly_004.avi)

(You have to admit that it's pretty humourous...)

[nonphixion]

how much will psp be cdn?

[xpoint9]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/ipodlounge_sonypsp29.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/psp-release3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/bboy_random/psp-eiyuu.jpg

PSP screen > Both of NDS screens :)
sexy sexy sexy
ill be picking up my psp in march for sure. getting one for 700 dollars off ebay right now is too much.

that looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yukikaze]

That screen from the PSP looks so damn sweet and sexy looking...

Going to get that for sure

[Supra_KL]

Go, shuriken launcher! (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~cf6y-oot/umd/fly_004.avi)

(You have to admit that it's pretty humourous...)

lol...oh, thats not good...!!!

Getting PSP for sure! Mainly for the extra features...also better games that suit me. Unlike kidde Nintendo games...

[P__S__2]

same thing as i did with my ps2...before i bought it...i was thinking which to get Ps2 or Xbox...even though IMO xbox is better...i only bought ps2 cuz of Final Fantasy...so i am goin to have to say PSP cuz of advent children

[divx]

whats that funny looking psp media there? is that mini dvd? those holds 1.7 GB. I thought psp will be able to play videos/movies, if I want to watch a video on psp, can I burn to a mini dvd and watch it? memory sticks are ridicoulesly overpriced. They should use cheaper media like compact flash if psp doesn't read from our mini dvd-r.

[jb22]

As much as I wish the Nintendo DS appealed to me as I would really like a new toy this Christmas it just doesn't. I mean none of the games seem that great IMO. The idea of the touch screen doesn't appeal to me, I mean if I wanted to use a stylus to play games I'd stick with my Pocket PC. The units design is just really lacking, I mean maybe some people will find the old Nintendo Game&Watch design from the late 80's appealing but I'm not a fan.

The PSP on the otehr hand, I can not wait for this system. I mean just based on design this thing is sexy. The games seem much more appealing, I mean being able to play GT anywhere you want is crazy. For me it's just the games that appeal to me more. I mean after seeing footage of Ridge Racer and Wipeout I can't see why anyone would still want a DS. And I am by no means a Sony fanboy, I don't even own a Playstation 2 (use to own a PS but sold it). So maybe that's why I don't mind all the PS2 ports on the PSP. Plus the fact that it can be used to watch movies and listen to music makes it even more appealing. The PSP to me just offers so much that I am willing to forgive a not so great battery (heck I'll buy an extra one if I need it) and even higher price tag.

Hopefully Nintendo can encourage developers to create some great content for the DS, but at this moment, the DS seems to just be lacking content.

[Leshita]

Even though there aren't any games I really really want yet, I will have to say that I want a PSP (would actually buy one when it comes out but I will wait for later revisions instead) over a DS.

The PSP's design is just pure...sexiness. :o
Now if only they start releasing those alternate colour units they showed when the system was first unveiled. ;)

[bboy_random]

It won't even cost that much more than an NDS either.

The standard PSP package launched in Japan with a cost of 19,800 yen (~189.90 USD , 232.430 CAD )

The value PSP package launched at 24,800 yen (~237.89 USD , 291.08 CAD)

[Leshita]

Yeah, when the price was announced I was a bit shocked (in a good way) since I was expecting it to be much much higher... as was a lot of other people/various articles.
Looks like this will be a long-term investment for Sony. :D

[xpoint9]

when does it come out. I'll be the first to get it (PSP)

It would be the craziest thing ever. pplaying NFS underground2 or GTA SA in class. or anywhere. on the plane too. and then switch to movies, and listen to songs and stuff.

IMO: This is the best thing invented by sony so far (or even by anyone)

[Makaveli2k]

Considering this is only system #3 for Sony, they are still a baby compared to a giant like Nintendo. The defects are only there due to a race on Christmas rush. (I assume Christmas is large in Japan, with their large populous of Christians?)

So, although they are going to have some hurdles to overcome.. Agreeing with sleepyguy, PSP might not be the best-ever system. But it will bring something new to the table. For that alone, I vote PSP for inginuity.

Those bugs will be fixed with their next handheld release, and I will continue to be happy, as long as Squeenix, Konami & Capcom exist.
so you wait till they release it in north america some fools are actually going to japan and buying the system, where would you get games and the plain ticket must be really expensive some people should just chill

[IVNP]

http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,65984,00.html

This article on DS is kinda interesting.

[Fantaz]

Got my DS. I'm going to have both once PSP comes out. One for my left pocket, another for my right. ;)

[chatbox]

Got my DS. I'm going to have both once PSP comes out. One for my left pocket, another for my right. ;)

And SMP both at the same time, one hand on each device. And dedicate half a brain to PSP, the other half to DS!!!

[Cruel_Angel]

i got my DS and i love it, and i have my PSP on order, i can't wait to get it. I'm kinda disapointed about the battery life, and i've herd major issues with loading times, but whatever, PSP is gona have some wayyy cool games besides that the graphics look beyond belief. DS' graphics are pretty good, i can't really complain, but i'm sure once i see some psp images in real life i'm gona change my mind. I don't think either one will dominate, many have tried to dethrown gameboy and nobody has succeed nobody has even come close, sony however does know how to make a top notch system and market it to the right group.

Bottom line, I have both Ps2 and xbox I love my xbox more, but still enjoy my ps2, My gamecube however is hardly ever used.. My gameboy SP and DS are used quite frequently, i don't use SP as frequently now.. But still, i don't see myself putting down my gameboys just cause something else came out. I have a Neogeo pocket color, i played that along side my gameboy advance, in high school i'd have both in my bag. And with DS and PSP i see myself carrying both. When the PSP batteries die, then i'll pull out the DS (hahaha)

[CSR]

so sexy

[Doug]

This is the newest version i've seen: http://www.yuko2ch.net/psp/psp_vs_nds.avi

I've got a DS and really like it. I want to get a psp too. :)

"It won't even cost that much more than an NDS either.

The standard PSP package launched in Japan with a cost of 19,800 yen (~189.90 USD , 232.430 CAD )

The value PSP package launched at 24,800 yen (~237.89 USD , 291.08 CAD)"

$100 is quite a bit more than the DS. Also, I think Sony made the Value pack mostly available. You need the memory stick anyway to save games, etc. I just wish they used Hi-MD instead of memory stick. $7 for 1GB of storage? Um yes please!

[sfu_lifer]

I hate flamewar-baiting polls like this.
You really should add a "both" option to negate that. I will likely get the PSP when it comes out as well and each system will have their strengths. The DS will have more varied gameplay but obviously less graphics.

[ahbert]

This is the newest version i've seen: http://www.yuko2ch.net/psp/psp_vs_nds.avi


what an idiot! That PSP won't last too long with all his abuse....

anyways my take on PSP vs DS:

Before watching PSP video on Ridge Racer:

DS PSP

After:

DS PSP

btw I have/had owned almost all Nintendo systems and handhelds but the PSP just looks amazing...

[sfu_lifer]

Actually, based on how he was gripping the system, it didn't look like he was bending it all that hard.

As for the DS vs. PSP, the PSP has amazing graphics but you pay for it with the battery life.
PSP (3 hours max on Ridge Racer, wireless off) vs. DS (8 hours on Ridge Racer w/ wireless always on).
I will keep my DS for the fun and unique gameplay experience it delivers. PSP I will have just for all the games that will never come out on the DS.

[IVNP]

This is just a hunch though but I think it's likely PS3 will have some addon or feature that would allow people to play PSP games since probably not alot of games it is going to get would use wireless features much if you consider how long the battery last. So might as well play those games as home console instead.
Anyway I'm just guess that's all but seriously I wouldn't really cosidering getting a PSP for real portable gaming 'cause of the battery life and likely the games would be ports or similar to the PS2 or other consoles get.

PS. I still kinda curious about how long the battery would last.......I mean the 3hr RR time with wireless off right? So what about volume and contrast? Wouldn't those matter a bit in battery life as well?

[sfu_lifer]

The volume was up pretty high and brightness about midway to get that 3 hours time according the reports I've read.
Yes some games already are announced with an interface to the PS2 so I'm sure it'll interface to "unlock" certain features.
With regards to ports, I'm extremely disappointed with NIntendo. Out of the 8 games released so far, 2 are ports of N64 games. That is just plain lazy. I'd rather have PS2 ports than N64 ports.

[RedLightning]

http://nfg.2y.net/games/psp/

Another interesting take on the PSP...

[Doug]

http://nfg.2y.net/games/psp/

Another interesting take on the PSP...

"The OOBE (out of box experience) is pretty grand. No one stocks and no one wants the basic PSP pack, instead opting for the Value Pack with its included headphones and remote control, 32MB memory stick and carrying case. And a wrist strap"

So they say you can get it for about $180 but make few of those packages available and release it in short supply. Hehe good idea.

As for the DS's launch games, I haven't bought any yet. :lol: Not interested in them. Just playing GBA games on it for now. I'm more interested in future games.

As for the DS's ports, I believe the PSP has it's own share. Ridge Racer, Darkstalkers, Hot Shots Golf. Dunno if there's more. Nice looking ports, but ports none the less. Altho I'm interested in Darkstalkers, but not it horrid load times. :(

[McLaren]

http://www.tokyopia.com/deluxe/pspwned.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/Bobbybobby85/pspwned3.jpg

[tmpz]

I'm totally in for PSP, but I dunno about DS.

The only positives I see for DS is, more battery life and Touch is good.
DS doesn't seem to have great games. They're mostly remakes of the older generation games, (specifically Mario).

PSP on the other hand has some many new games. I don't mind the lower battery life, but the graphics are so nice.

[ahbert]

Video shot of Ridge racers on psp:

http://media.psp.ign.com/media/682/682967/vid_1008238.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.i gn.com%2Fpsp%2Farticle%2F572%2F572560%2Fridgeracer s_clip6_121204_wmvlow.wmv

Compared to Ridge Racer DS:

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/704/704841/vid_993664.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.ig n.com%2Fds%2Farticle%2F567%2F567681%2Fridgeracer_-007-0001_wmvds.wmv

[CodecX81]

So if you were sony, what would you do to make it better?
Me personally?
Obviously, do something about the battery life..

I haven't read that this thing has a harddrive. It'd be nice to see something like that or a RAM drive.. to allow the game to partially keep a little of itself on the PSP to hasten load times. that might keep the battery charge up.

Might make the unit costly, but hell.. it is already. :)

I don't agree in a backloader CD drive..
They should've made a toploader, or something.

Make the unit less glossy. As much as it is really slick to have, it does tend to attract fingerprints.

[ledorky]

Actually, the PSP is an amazing device for the price. The DS is selling at a profit most likely and the PSP at a major loss.
Actually that picture with the lone DS is wrong. The DS has sold 3x as many PSP's in Japan due to Sony's shortage. You're far more likely to encounter a fellow DS owner vs a PSP owner.

[Fantaz]

Check out the screenshots/videos for Gran Turismo Mobile for PSP?

[plucky duck]

How's the backlight and angle view on the PSP? With the GBA, playing without the blacklight is unbearable. Even when you can get sunlight, you have to ajust the GBA to an awkard angle.

I'm very looking forward to the PSP. Most likely will buy one. Very attractive physical design, nice big screen (prefer over DS top/down screen - bigger primary play area). I'm not as worried about battery life since I don't game much anyways.

Is the PSP harware-wise equal in power to the Playstation2? The graphics looks amazing. About the only thing I'm worried about is the super glossy screen. Especially directly under flourescent lighting.

The Nintendo DS design has no eye appeal, at least to me anyways.

[jerryhussain]

Video shot of Ridge racers on psp:

http://media.psp.ign.com/media/682/682967/vid_1008238.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.i gn.com%2Fpsp%2Farticle%2F572%2F572560%2Fridgeracer s_clip6_121204_wmvlow.wmv

Compared to Ridge Racer DS:

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/704/704841/vid_993664.html?mu=http%3A%2F%2Fstreamingmovies.ig n.com%2Fds%2Farticle%2F567%2F567681%2Fridgeracer_-007-0001_wmvds.wmv

Thanks for the links. The PSP literally owns the DS in graphics department.

The battery life issue is varied, people are getting 4-5 hrs depending on the Wi-Fi on/off, screen brightness, volume etc., Also the defect videos look somewhat exaggerated. Unless there is something real wrong, I wont be considering the PSP. Somehow the DS just doesnt cut it for me. :D

[sfu_lifer]

How's the backlight and angle view on the PSP? With the GBA, playing without the blacklight is unbearable. Even when you can get sunlight, you have to ajust the GBA to an awkard angle.

I'm very looking forward to the PSP. Most likely will buy one. Very attractive physical design, nice big screen (prefer over DS top/down screen - bigger primary play area). I'm not as worried about battery life since I don't game much anyways.

Is the PSP harware-wise equal in power to the Playstation2? The graphics looks amazing. About the only thing I'm worried about is the super glossy screen. Especially directly under flourescent lighting.

The Nintendo DS design has no eye appeal, at least to me anyways.
No it's not. I know a PSP developer and he says they cut quite a bit off the PS2 (they added some new functions but I'm hearing it's not very practical). It's still powerful but nowhere near a PS2 although the small screen helps things a bit to maintain the illusion.

[McLaren]

http://home.comcast.net/~vwmkivtdi/PSP.jpg

[CodecX81]

Humourous, but stale. What happened to you McLaren, you used to be cool..... you used to be about the music.. maaaan

[jesse14]

how long does it take to charge the battery?

[sleepyguy]

Wow... no matter how 'cool' the PSP is the battery life is pathetic. They should throw in a 2nd battery for free with those stats. I'm gonna get a DS when it drops... or an old SP when it's $50 :)

[sfu_lifer]

how long does it take to charge the battery?
2 hours according to reports.

[xpoint9]

whaaa? 2hrs? what if your not playing games, insted you are listening to music? how long would it las then? and i have'nt look that much into psp. but does it play minidiscs? or normal sized disc?

[chatbox]

whaaa? 2hrs? what if your not playing games, insted you are listening to music? how long would it las then? and i have'nt look that much into psp. but does it play minidiscs? or normal sized disc?

The "2hrs" is charge time, not play time.

[xpoint9]

The "2hrs" is charge time, not play time.
lol aite my bad.

[plucky duck]

I'm assuming a portable that uses cartridges instead of a CD disk saves battery life due to not having to deal with a spinning cd motor?

[Supra_KL]

I'm assuming a portable that uses cartridges instead of a CD disk saves battery life due to not having to deal with a spinning cd motor?

Correct, plus the laser to read the disc...

[Headhunter]

Correct, plus the laser to read the disc...
And no power wasted to eject the disc. Yeah, I just wanted to post something :razz:

[sfu_lifer]

whaaa? 2hrs? what if your not playing games, insted you are listening to music? how long would it las then? and i have'nt look that much into psp. but does it play minidiscs? or normal sized disc?
It uses a smaller minidisc (UMDs) but basically the same tech. Music time is rated at 8 hours, video at 2 hours and games around 4.
So yeah, better buy a spare battery @ $45 US or make sure you're near a plug.

[xpoint9]

thats wicked. hope they come out with something new like PSP2. after PSP, and in PSP2 they should fix all the battery problems.

[Doug]

Haha PSP isn't even out here yet and people are talking about a PSP2. I just find that amusing. :cheesygri

[sfu_lifer]

Oh you cannot play minidiscs on the system. Different sized disc altogether.
And I'm reading now most games are lasting in the 3 hour mark. OUCH.
The only way to play any of your own stuff is thru the expensive memory stick pro duo.
I love the DS's battery life but with the graphics on the PSP being so nice, I can't wait to play Ridge Racer. It's too bad tho Konami did not spend much time on Metal Gear Solid Acid. The graphics are way sub-PS2 and there are no cutscenes really.
I'm not so sure I'm gonna import this early since the games are not so hot.

[xpoint9]

two polls n in both psp is in the lead wow!!! (not shocking tho)