Most Unbreakable Records in Professional Sports [Archive]

Degenerate

Oct 30th, 2004, 03:58 PM

There are lots of records which will go down as unbreakable. Here are some of mine.

NHL

Gretzky's 50 goals in 38 games
Gretzky's 92 goals in 82 games
Gretzky's 52 game point streak
Greztky's career total 2,857 points
Darryl Sitler's 10 points in 1 game

Basketball

Chamberlain's 100 points in one game (that's just pure ball hog and crappy players)
Chamberlain's 50 rebounds in one game
Kareem Abdul Jabaar's career total points 38,387
Michael Jordan's playoff points in one game 63

Baseball

Rickey Henderson's single season stolen base record 130
Rickey Henderson's career stolen base total 1406
Mark McGwire's rookie homerun record 49
Cal Ripken's consecutive games streak 2,632 (dumb record because he sucked towards the end of his career and kept playing every game)
MLB the number of times it put me to sleep 43580394856094 and counting

I don't watch the NFL so if someone could post some pretty impressive records that would be nice.

balou911

Oct 30th, 2004, 04:30 PM

All those records will be broken in time.

the hardest will prob be the hockey ones though.

the rest will be broken, as there are more teams = more games played per season = more pionts for the elite.

gman

Oct 30th, 2004, 04:41 PM

MLB:

75 complete games in a season: Will White 1879.

This record will never be broken unless baseball will be played for the whole year and a game per day. Then, it may be mathmatical possible. A starting pitcher only starts about 32 games in a season these years.

And, he started 75 games in 1879 and this is also a record.

Headhunter

Oct 30th, 2004, 05:01 PM

gman's record is the hardest to top, though I'd argue that baseball is a radically different game; non-whites not being allowed to play in professional baseball with whites is such a profound difference (more than drugs, 5-man rotations, specialty pitchers, etc) that I don't think a comparison between the eras is usable.

Modern record, I'd say Darryl Sittler's 10 points in a game. If anyone got 7+ points, I figure the other team in this day and age would send the goons out to cripple him. Sad but true.

krispy

Oct 30th, 2004, 05:49 PM

I think that now that defense plays such an important role in pro sports, records like Gretzky's and Chamberlain's will never be broken. Couple that with the fact that the past NBA, NFL & NHL winners have been real team-based squads (Pistons, Patriots, Lightning), there's a new approach to winning. With the talent pool as high as it is, these ridiculous stats where one player takes the puck or ball for the entire game just can't happen.

Of course, who knows, maybe someone with a third arm will be born soon.

nx2k

Oct 30th, 2004, 06:10 PM

i believe it was 39 games that gretzky scored 50 in

but i do agree with some of you, that gretzky's records as well as chamberlain's will never be broken.

but i will always believe that there was one person who can do it but never took care of himself by staying healthy, and that's lemieux, atleast his all time pts record.
lemieux has the record for pts/games played

i think you can throw in gretzky's 215pts in one year, nowadays players are lucky to get 100.

balou911

Oct 30th, 2004, 06:20 PM

I guess Will Whites record will stand the test of time because the game has changed.

Look at boxing. 100yrs ago, there were 60round fights. that wont happen anymore, so a 55th round tko is a record set in stone.

But records are meant to be broken.

Look at the homerun record - plp thought no one will ever beat it - add a little performance enhancing drugs, and bingo, we got a new homerun king.

All those 'most of in 1 yr' records will be broken, as time progresses, there are more and more teams, and soon enough, alot of these sports will become year round. No more golfing for the champs, only the losers get to go that.

The_One

Oct 30th, 2004, 07:18 PM

One of Lemieux's records might be a bit hard to beat. He scored goals on the powerplay, shorthanded, even strength, empty net and penalty shot in 1 game. Theres no doubt players can score 5 goals in a game but to do it in very possible situation might be a little impossible.

wanted

Oct 30th, 2004, 07:55 PM

Chamberlain's 50 rebounds in one game
Kareem Abdul Jabaar's career total points 38,387
Michael Jordan's playoff points in one game 63

50 rebounds- Maybe, I'm highly optimistic this time, KG could maybe manage to put up 50 boards in a game, maybe! He's had 25 or so, why not 50!

38,387- Karl Malone, if he takes another stab at this game for a couple of seasons he could break the record, again I'm highly optimistic. Possibly, Reggie Miller? Keep draining those 3's and making the freethrows.

63 Points in Playoff Game- Hmmm.... maybe a Shaq, Kobe, T-mac, Duncan type of guy could possibly reach this. Opitimistically speaking.

Degenerate

Oct 30th, 2004, 09:01 PM

mingcourt

Oct 30th, 2004, 11:22 PM

50 rebounds- Maybe, I'm highly optimistic this time, KG could maybe manage to put up 50 boards in a game, maybe! He's had 25 or so, why not 50!

38,387- Karl Malone, if he takes another stab at this game for a couple of seasons he could break the record, again I'm highly optimistic. Possibly, Reggie Miller? Keep draining those 3's and making the freethrows.

63 Points in Playoff Game- Hmmm.... maybe a Shaq, Kobe, T-mac, Duncan type of guy could possibly reach this. Opitimistically speaking.
Realistically speaking, it is very unlikely any of that will happen except for the playoff points record.

How often does KG even get 25 rebounds?

Karl Malone's days are over... even if he is playing again, he wont be the same scorer he was. Reggie Miller is overrated... He'll end his career soon.

Jordan's record of 63 pts in a playoff game isnt unbreakable... but it sure as heck will be hard to reach. Iverson had 50 against the Raptors, and I dont consider him anywhere near as great as Jordan

FuNPoLiCe001

Oct 31st, 2004, 03:09 AM

wilt's records are pretty damn tough

you're not going to score 100 points unless you get about 50-60 on free throws, and no one's going to get that many calls in a game. Guards won't be able to sustain that amount of energy, so the only ones who really have a shot are big guys, and for some reason good big men can't hit free throws anymore

50 boards ... not with the pace that NBA teams are shooting nowadays

I say the toughest record to break is Cy Young's career wins: 511

Baseball's 162 games, a year, staff ace starts maybe 33-35 games.

A pitcher's gotta win 25+ a year over 20 years to break that record, and that's just a ridiculous pace. Heck, 300 wins is considered a lock for the Hall.

If someone does do it, they should just rename the award to whoever that person is

sfu_lifer

Oct 31st, 2004, 08:44 AM

The 100 points is doable if a 3-point specialist gets phenomenally hot in a run and gun team and is allowed to take 50 shots.
Mr. Robinson made to to 72 a few years ago so it's not entirely impossible.
The 75 complete games will NEVER be broken.
50 rebounds is also hard but Rodman and a few others got to 30 a few years ago. Garnett, I highly doubt, will ever approach 40 much less 50. He doesn't have the vacuum and instinct Rodman has. Besides, that's all Rodman has to focus on (that and freelancing on D).
The Kareem total points is close to falling with Malone heading that way. Kobe has a GREAT chance to beat it seeing as how he's the main focus of the Lakers and he started after high school but I'm hoping he won't be able to do it. Never saw a player as pri-madonna arrogant as him.
The hockey records are hard to top but you never know. A new wunderkidd might emerge in a water downed league that has changed rules to open up the offense.

Degenerate

Oct 31st, 2004, 10:31 AM

Headhunter

Oct 31st, 2004, 10:56 AM

63 Points in Playoff Game- Hmmm.... maybe a Shaq, Kobe, T-mac, Duncan type of guy could possibly reach this. Opitimistically speaking.

Is that a record for regulation? If not, a game with 2 OT's could easily allow someone like McGrady to bomb away.

sfu_lifer

Oct 31st, 2004, 11:20 AM

With different eras in every sport I think it's really hard to say. Gretzky's records simply can't be touched because of the style of todays NHL. Teams play far more defensive hockey. There is so much clutching and grabbing. Goalies are far better than they used to be not to mention the size of their equiptment.

Joe Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak is a record that also can't be touched.

Yeah Jordan's 63 was double OT against Boston. His career FG% was NUTS ,near 50%. I think that will be eclipsed in the next 10 years.
That 56 game hitting streak will be broken someday. I wouldn't find it surprising if someone does break it. When someone hits 40 straight, we can start counting down :)
The hockey rules will have to change in order for someone to go after Gretzky's records (i.e. bigger ice, fully regulated goalie equipment, rule changes to prevent clutch/grabs, kill the neutral zone trap, etc). You never know. And that is one reason why we love sports. We love records and we love them being broken. I can't wait till someone hits 100 home runs. Hopefully I see that in my lifetime.

wanted

Oct 31st, 2004, 05:51 PM

16 time World Heavy Weight champion. Can't forget that.

Degenerate

Oct 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM

16 time World Heavy Weight champion. Can't forget that.

Triple H is going to break that.

nx2k

Oct 31st, 2004, 07:49 PM

it's kinda different the way flair won them and the way wrestling is now.
it was a lot harder to win championships back then and still HHH will still have trouble catching flair since he only has 9.
plus flair is actually 21 times world champion, it's just some of them were never acknowledged.
there might be a day where someone will catch flair for as many championships but there will never be another Ric Flair

Degenerate

Oct 31st, 2004, 08:30 PM

Ric Flair is probably the greatest character in Pro Wrestling history but he was by no means the best wrestler. If there is anyone that's ever going to break his record it will definately be Triple H simply because he'll be running the show soon.

Austin 3:16 > Stylin and Profilin

mingcourt

Oct 31st, 2004, 08:50 PM

McLaren

Oct 31st, 2004, 10:16 PM

Michael Schumacher's 7 World championships.

Montague

Oct 31st, 2004, 10:29 PM

plus flair is actually 21 times world champion, it's just some of them were never acknowledged
That just tells me that he LOST the title at least twenty times. :cheesygri

Seriously unlike triple H

Ric Flair did not rely on sleeping with the bosses daughter to get all the stroke that guy has.

As for unbreakable records?

I dunno.

How about that American cyclist winning all those Tour de France races?

misterchill

Nov 1st, 2004, 12:52 AM

Here's a very unscientific fact of a record pertinent today:

The entire life of the football team the Washington Redskins, over 70 years... when they win the last game before the Presidential election, the incumbent party remains in power, but if they lose, the opposing party wins the election.

Welp, the Redskins lost today, 28-14 to Green Bay. You know what that means on Tuesday!!!!

Degenerate

Nov 1st, 2004, 09:26 AM

on the contrary, i think kurt angle and chris benoit are great athletes and deserve some recognition

Definately the greatest techinical wrestlers in the circuit today. I could watch them go for hours.

nx2k

Nov 5th, 2004, 12:06 AM

Wrestling is so lame, i mean... title reigns are fixed, and scripted. i wont say wrestling is fake because i know for a fact ppl get injured cause i use to watch it. but everything is scripted.

i dont consider flair anywhere near the greatest of all time. entertainment, maybe, but he's getting old... "WOOOOOOOO" doesnt cut it anymore.
i've never seen flair perform any technical moves.

on the contrary, i think kurt angle and chris benoit are great athletes and deserve some recognition
i invite you to watch Flair/Steamboat, Flair/Race, Flair/Sting from the 80's and dare you to say he isn't a good technical wrestler, he's the greatest of all time easily in all aspects.
Wrestling is not only a technic but it tells a story, nobody told a story better in the ring than Ric Flair.
he has obviously lost a few steps but nobody is debating that right now. afterall he is 55.

spike-spiegel

Nov 5th, 2004, 12:10 AM

Hasn't Gretzky been quoted to say that he thinks Sidney Crosby has a chance of breaking Gretzky's records? But in this hockey era, it might be different. But that's a huge compliment in itself.

nx2k

Nov 5th, 2004, 12:37 AM

Hasn't Gretzky been quoted to say that he thinks Sidney Crosby has a chance of breaking Gretzky's records? But in this hockey era, it might be different. But that's a huge compliment in itself.
Crosby better worry about breaking Lemieux Junior records before setting a goal to break Gretzky's professional records

Rometiklan

Nov 5th, 2004, 01:00 AM

I dare say no one will ever break Gretzky's more prominent records like most goals in a season, most points in a season, most points in a career, etc, etc. It's a different game now. The caliber of goaltending is unbelieveable in this day and age. Every team has a good goalie. Even the back-ups are no slouches. The days of open-ice, run and gun, 4.56 goals-against averages are long gone...too much boring trap hockey. How many 100 points players were there in the last 5 years? Compare that with the number of 100 point players during Gretzky's prime. Even defensemen were getting 100+ points when Gretzky was skating with Coffey. To even have a shot at breaking Gretzky's career points, some player would have to get 100+ points for over 20 years, on average. I doubt that will ever happen.

ledorky

Nov 5th, 2004, 04:01 AM

Wrestling is so lame, i mean... title reigns are fixed, and scripted. i wont say wrestling is fake because i know for a fact ppl get injured cause i use to watch it. but everything is scripted.

i dont consider flair anywhere near the greatest of all time. entertainment, maybe, but he's getting old... "WOOOOOOOO" doesnt cut it anymore.
i've never seen flair perform any technical moves.

on the contrary, i think kurt angle and chris benoit are great athletes and deserve some recognition
I concur. Wrestlers are major athletes but the pro wrestling is a joke. Pro Wrestling "records" shouldn't be even considered in this thread.

Markyhour

Nov 5th, 2004, 04:33 AM

i believe it was 39 games that gretzky scored 50 in

but i will always believe that there was one person who can do it but never took care of himself by staying healthy, and that's lemieux, atleast his all time pts record.
lemieux has the record for pts/games played

yah it was 39 games.
I dunno what you stats you have been looking at but Gretzky has higher points per game than Mario Lemieux.. Lemieux may be a great player.. but Gretzky is The Great One. Lemieux is very talented, but lets be serious Gretzky is in his own league. Most NHLers were unbelieveably talented in their college days and get to the NHL to find their match... when gretzky got there he was still that much better then the rest of them.

Wrestling is so lame, i mean... title reigns are fixed, and scripted. i wont say wrestling is fake because i know for a fact ppl get injured cause i use to watch it. but everything is scripted.

Thats Bull... Next you are gonna try and tell me TV shows are scripted too.

Its not like we watch wrestling because we think its real, we watch it like any other television show... for entertainment. I hate when people think they are on a higher level then anyone and try to 'break the news' the its fake. thx for the tip buddy.

As for records, you can definaely add the 215 points by gretzky to the list.

prof_frink

Nov 5th, 2004, 11:01 AM

no, it was 39 games.

http://www.canoe.ca/Gretzky/records.html
Fastest 50 goals from start of season -- 39 games in 1981-82.

I also think the 92 goals will never be broken, or his 215 point season.

As for the Mario/Wayne argument - I'm a big gretzky fan, in fact, I do think he's the greatest, but Gretzky himself once said 'if mario didn't smoke, he would have broken most of my records'.

And I have to agree, maybe not with the smoking, but the injuries did kill lemieux's numbers. I've seen both play in their primes, and I really think Lemieux was the more talented player, Gretzky was craftier.

Put it this way, Lemieux could dominate all by himself, whereas Gretzky would 'use' other players and opponents to dominate the game - he could think 5 steps ahead of his next move - that's what I mean by crafty, but Lemieux, if he decided he was going to score, nothing would stop him.

But getting back to the orignal question - I think and even tougher record to beat would be the dolphins undefeated season in 1974 (or 72 - I can't remeber what year) I don't think that'll ever happen again.

yah it was 29 games.
I dunno what you stats you have been looking at but Gretzky has higher points per game than Mario Lemieux.. Lemieux may be a great player.. but Gretzky is The Great One. Lemieux is very talented, but lets be serious Gretzky is in his own league. Most NHLers were unbelieveably talented in their college days and get to the NHL to find their match... when gretzky got there he was still that much better then the rest of them.

Markyhour

Nov 5th, 2004, 11:18 AM

yah 39 my bad, typo

Degenerate

Nov 5th, 2004, 12:16 PM

Gretzky = greatest player to play the game
Lemieux = greatest indivdual talent

prof_frink

Nov 5th, 2004, 12:51 PM

Gretzky = greatest player to play the game
Lemieux = greatest indivdual talent

that's pretty much what I was trying to say.

porphyra

Nov 5th, 2004, 01:14 PM

You want a record that will NEVER be broken (and a change from hockey, basketball, baseball and football)..

Sir Donald Bradman's test cricket average of 99.94 at his retirement.

That figure simply boggles the mind. Considering the next 3 have an average of 60.9 to 60.7. Noone has even broken 61 since..

Degenerate

Nov 5th, 2004, 02:35 PM

Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High.

Asun

Nov 5th, 2004, 09:58 PM

Al Bundy scored 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High.

Damn, I miss Married.. with Children. They used to have rerun all over the channels, but suddenly BLAM. Can't find it anymore.

nx2k

Nov 6th, 2004, 12:30 AM

yah it was 29 games.
I dunno what you stats you have been looking at but Gretzky has higher points per game than Mario Lemieux.. Lemieux may be a great player.. but Gretzky is The Great One. Lemieux is very talented, but lets be serious Gretzky is in his own league. Most NHLers were unbelieveably talented in their college days and get to the NHL to find their match... when gretzky got there he was still that much better then the rest of them.

that's only within the last year. lemieux had that record for the longest time.
but right now you are right, gretzky is sitting at 1.92pts/game and lemieux is at 1.91pts/game career average.

the reason why wrestling records are legit is becuz there's a reason why championships are scripted to certain people like nature boy ric flair.
the reason why after he lost those titles and they kept giving it back to him is becuz he was a big draw everywhere he went. everytime the experimented with someone else holding the title instead of flair, it was a complete failure becuz they could never draw a crowd or draw heat like flair did.
that's why the championship belt is a compliment as to how great you really are in Wrestling and there is no better than Nature boy Ric Flair