What's a Lowballer?

[baby_pootie]

noob question here...in the BST when they say no lowballers what does that mean?

[bullet]

an a -hole, id name some......but later

[Montague]

someone who gives a unreasonable low price offer on an item.

[surreybc]

everything sells for an unreasonably low price these days. you can get shirts for 3.5 now. it used to be 10 bucks was the cheapest shirt. people try to sell used old technology for more than what modern technology is selling for new in the stores.

[sumfunny]

A low baller is a person who offers to purchase something at an unreasonably low price.


There are no rules to state what is unreasonably low but offering less then 60% of the selling price is probably too low.

[Sea-56]

A lowballer is a fairly athletic person with strong legs. He first baits you in by saying he will buy your items and agreeing to meet up with you in person locally for the deal. Upon contact, he says he will inspect the items in question to ensure everything is in working order and there is no deception involved. And then it happens; a swift kick and you are down. You are left sprawled down on the location with your hands grasped over your balls trying to alleviate the pain. You groan and open your eyes to see him sprinting away from you, faster than you could possibly ever run; in his arms is all your precious hardware. You don’t know which hurts more, your swollen balls or losing a couple hundred dollars worth of computer hardware. All you know is that there are a lot of people pointing and laughing at you at the moment.

[baby_pootie]

thanks for clearing that up...all this time I thought that a lowballer was someone that just likes low ba...ahhh nevermind...

[squall458]

A lowballer is a fairly athletic person with strong legs. He first baits you in by saying he will buy your items and agreeing to meet up with you in person locally for the deal. Upon contact, he says he will inspect the items in question to ensure everything is in working order and there is no deception involved. And then it happens; a swift kick and you are down. You are left sprawled down on the location with your hands grasped over your balls trying to alleviate the pain. You groan and open your eyes to see him sprinting away from you, faster than you could possibly ever run; in his arms is all your precious hardware. You don’t know which hurts more, your swollen balls or losing a couple hundred dollars worth of computer hardware. All you know is that there are a lot of people pointing and laughing at you at the moment.
did this happen to u? or is it for amusement sake

[FuNT]

A lowballer is a fairly athletic person with strong legs. He first baits you in by saying he will buy your items and agreeing to meet up with you in person locally for the deal. Upon contact, he says he will inspect the items in question to ensure everything is in working order and there is no deception involved. And then it happens; a swift kick and you are down. You are left sprawled down on the location with your hands grasped over your balls trying to alleviate the pain. You groan and open your eyes to see him sprinting away from you, faster than you could possibly ever run; in his arms is all your precious hardware. You don’t know which hurts more, your swollen balls or losing a couple hundred dollars worth of computer hardware. All you know is that there are a lot of people pointing and laughing at you at the moment.

lol.

[Gee]

There are always going to be lowballers. These people are morons. I have friend that thinks everything in life is free.

Lets face it people. The reason why people are selling things here is to make some money. Otherwise, just throw away your junk.

Some member even has a signature saying that profiteers will not be tolerated. That is just a stupid statement. Plain and simple. If you are not here to profit, then throw away your stuff.

It is okay to make a profit, as long as

1. You are being fair and not charging more than what can be purchased retail
2. Make sure the product is in perfect condition and offer some guarantee
3. See rule 1

But before you make an unreasonable offer. Ask yourself this question. If I owned the item as was selling it. How much would I want?

Similarly if you are selling a product. Ask yourself, what would I pay for something like this.

Chances are, if you are truthfull with your answers. Most other people will agree and you will sell your items quickly.

[gilboman]

actually...lowballers are not morons at all, they offer a low price for an item, if they dont get the item, they lose nothing, if they get it near their lowball price, they got a great deal. I personally think there is no real problem with lowballing, if someone wants to lowball, it doesnt hurt anybody and maybe a good laugh. perhaps the lowballer does believe the price they are offering is not unreasonable, and most people ask in the optimistic range of what they get expect to get for the item they are selling

[radeonboy]

actually...lowballers are not morons at all, they offer a low price for an item, if they dont get the item, they lose nothing, if they get it near their lowball price, they got a great deal. I personally think there is no real problem with lowballing, if someone wants to lowball, it doesnt hurt anybody and maybe a good laugh. perhaps the lowballer does believe the price they are offering is not unreasonable, and most people ask in the optimistic range of what they get expect to get for the item they are selling

Agreed. The person saying they are morons is very judgemental. Anways like :arrowu: said...It can't hurt to try. Just be polite about it and say sorry, I can't do it for you at that price or sorry i can't go that low...And go on with business.

It's not that hard. Give me a break.

[Floater_]

or if it really bothers you, add them to your ignore list.

[laptop-tech]

There are always going to be lowballers. These people are morons. I have friend that thinks everything in life is free.

Lets face it people. The reason why people are selling things here is to make some money. Otherwise, just throw away your junk.

Some member even has a signature saying that profiteers will not be tolerated. That is just a stupid statement. Plain and simple. If you are not here to profit, then throw away your stuff.

It is okay to make a profit, as long as

1. You are being fair and not charging more than what can be purchased retail
2. Make sure the product is in perfect condition and offer some guarantee




AGREE !

Lowballers are brainless people willing to buy your P IV 3 Ghz laptop for 300.00, but only if it had a DVD burner and wi-fi.

I sell items on Ebay (you can tell me a thousand times that Ebay items are overpriced - just another reason to sell there) and sometimes I list them here too.

On Ebay, I get about 1 dollar per megahert (cpu power)....so a PII 233 will sell for some 200.00....I list the same laptop here, and funny folks offer me 60.00, "to take this burden off my hands"...

Now, why on earth would I prefer to get 60.00 when I KNOW for sure I can get 200.00 ?

The point is that I'm not saying that 200.00 is the best price on this item (just an example) but a "market price", and the reason I say market price is because it sell for this price every single time. Many buyers are in remote locations in Canada where the closest computer store sells a similar item for 350.00...so 200.00 is a deal !

I stated in my postings that lowballers should not contact me, and when they insist I either reply with an insult or just add them to my ignore list.

I'm sure some people will read my statments here and say "this guy a a jerk" - botton line is that at the end of the month I have to pay my mortgage and I sell laptops for a living...so lowballers are the scumbag crawling on earth, in my opinion.

[krips]

Lowballers are annoying, but sometimes it is not their fault entirely. For example, someone wanted to trade me a vid card + cash for my vid card. It was a 8500 AIW, which or course, holds a higher value than an 8500 because of the AIW features. Since I do not use them, however, I could only offer him the $80 that the card was worth. This may have been considered lowballing, but I could not offer him anymore as it was not worth more than that to me. Do you see my point?

[Gee]

Then you are buying the wrong card. If all you need is an 8500, then don't go looking for an 8500 AIW.

That is like shopping for a car and all you need is a basic car to go from A to B. But you want to get a Ferrari. So are you going to offer the Ferrari dealership the same price you would offer a GM dealer for a Sunfire?

Buy what you need. Don't offer some ridiculous price from something that you don't need, just because it has extra features.

[B40]

a baller (basketball player) who wears his shorts really low

[Powderworker]

A freeballer is somebody who doesn't wear underwear.

[kai]

A lowballer is a fairly athletic person with strong legs. He first baits you in by saying he will buy your items and agreeing to meet up with you in person locally for the deal. Upon contact, he says he will inspect the items in question to ensure everything is in working order and there is no deception involved. And then it happens; a swift kick and you are down. You are left sprawled down on the location with your hands grasped over your balls trying to alleviate the pain. You groan and open your eyes to see him sprinting away from you, faster than you could possibly ever run; in his arms is all your precious hardware. You don’t know which hurts more, your swollen balls or losing a couple hundred dollars worth of computer hardware. All you know is that there are a lot of people pointing and laughing at you at the moment.

LOL This is too damn true. I believe we all met some guys like this in our lifetime. Smart as we all are, we are able to identify such people within a fraction of second and nowadays they get away with their own balls. :cheesygri

[krips]

Then you are buying the wrong card. If all you need is an 8500, then don't go looking for an 8500 AIW.

That is like shopping for a car and all you need is a basic car to go from A to B. But you want to get a Ferrari. So are you going to offer the Ferrari dealership the same price you would offer a GM dealer for a Sunfire?

Buy what you need. Don't offer some ridiculous price from something that you don't need, just because it has extra features.
No you dipshit, I didn't go looking for it. He WANTED to trade it with ME. Read a post fully before you reply.

[Gee]

Lowballers are annoying, but sometimes it is not their fault entirely. For example, someone wanted to trade me a vid card + cash for my vid card. It was a 8500 AIW, which or course, holds a higher value than an 8500 because of the AIW features. Since I do not use them, however, I could only offer him the $80 that the card was worth. This may have been considered lowballing, but I could not offer him anymore as it was not worth more than that to me. Do you see my point?

You read your own post. It is confusing enough.

Someone offered you cash and a video card. In return he wanted your video card. From your post it sounds like you own the 8500 AIW.

You read it one sentence at a time and tell me how to interpret it.

Then you say, since you do not use the features of the AIW. Now it sounds like he owns the card and is offering you his AIW plus cash.

Why would he offer you an AIW plus cash? Assuming that you are going to trade him for an inferior card?

So the only conclusion is that you wanted an 8500, someone offered you an 8500 AIW. But you don't need it so you low ball him with an offer of $80. So why would he offer you a video card and cash?

I am not here to correct your grammer. Regardless of the situation, instead of lowballing (knowing that he would not accept $80) Why waste each other's time? Especially if you know that it is more card than you need. Thus, worth more?

If your response to him was. Sorry, I only want to spend $80 and your card is worth more than that. I wouldn't consider that a low ball offer. He is trying to upsell you.

Before you go off half cocked and calling people names. Have someone else read your post. See if they understand what you are trying to say. Then tell me who the dipshit is?

[krips]

I admit that it was not clear who's card was the 8500, but if you read the whole post, it becomes evident; I keep talking about the card, finishing by saying that I could only offer him $80 for it. How else could that be interpreted?

[Gee]

If you offered him $80 for an 8500 I would consider that a good price. But who knows, someone else may consider it a low ball offer. $80 for an AIW can also be a fair price since this card is a few generations behind. Personally, I have a 7500 AIW. I would sell it in a heart beat for $80.

Doesn't matter. We each have a sense of what we are willing to pay for certain items. That is how we should measure our offers. Usually, you will find that to be a fair price.

[Pyro]

try being the seller of a popular $400 item and getting 10/15 pms offering you $200-250

then tell me how annoying it is that people lowball
deleteing/replying takes time and effort

[JAC]

Some member even has a signature saying that profiteers will not be tolerated. That is just a stupid statement. Plain and simple. If you are not here to profit, then throw away your stuff.
People like you are why this board has degenerated beyond recognition. It used to be a tight-knit community, sharing hot deals and selling items and not worrying about trolls.

Now, people are buying out stock on hot deals just so they can resell it at a profit. These people are *******s. If you don't see the probelm with that, then you don't belong here.

[Elessar]

People like you are why this board has degenerated beyond recognition. It used to be a tight-knit community, sharing hot deals and selling items and not worrying about trolls.

Now, people are buying out stock on hot deals just so they can resell it at a profit. These people are *******s. If you don't see the probelm with that, then you don't belong here.

*applauds*

Although I do take issue with people that specifically troll Buy&Sell forums, accusing others of taking a hot deal and selling it for a profit (especially when the offered item is actually a decent deal and the original deal gone). Still, those depriving the system and then turning around and trying to make a profit off the very same people that helped him...

Shame.

[laptop-tech]

then we can conclude that the problem is NOT really the "profit" itself, but how it was made, right ?


I agree that someone who finds a hot deal (say, a pricing error or insane PM at Staples) buys all stock (like 12 computers) only to resell in the BST is really a pr!ck.......altho it's the basics of economics.

Personally, I sell lots of things...and every and anything HAS to be for a profit, as this is my only income. Typically, I buy laptops from dealers and offer them here while also list on Ebay. I assume that my presence here has no damage to anyone, as we're all free to choose the best price/deal/conditions we can find, so anything I offer, if the price is right, buy...if not, dont buy.

If profiteers means anyone or entity looking for a profit, then the board itself should be shut down, as the owners are making their money too, with referals and sponsors...

We should then remove any banners from Staples, TigerDirect, Futureshop, Microsoft, all known for their eager to profit from innocent buyers.

Dont get me wrong....my point is : EVERYBODY wants to make money... and that's why we have jobs, and that's also why I sell laptops and related stuff here.

Just my stupid 2 cents.

[JAC]

then we can conclude that the problem is NOT really the "profit" itself, but how it was made, right ?
<sigh> I changed my sig, so nobody should be confused now.

Personally, I sell lots of things...and every and anything HAS to be for a profit, as this is my only income. Typically, I buy laptops from dealers and offer them here while also list on Ebay.
If that's the case, you're a business, and you should be paying Derek ad fees. :twisted:

[Gee]

Don't get me wrong. If someone gets a great deal on an item and then tries to sell it for double or tripple what he bought it for, then that is excessive. But he is well within his rights. When I see this, I don't comment because I think this guy is a jerk. I just move on. I believe if I don't have anything positive to say, say nothing.

But your comment is that Profiteers will not be tolerated, that is just dumb.

If someone managed to get an 17" LCD for $100 because of a pricing error, and he decides to sell it for $300 (200% profit) I don't see anything wrong with that. Because a new one will still cost me $500. Even though he make a 200% profit, I am still getting a great deal. Isn't that what this is all about? Your good fortune is also my good fortune.

There are those Pepsi iPods, does that mean anyone selling these are all jerks? The way I see it, they were fortunate enough to win one. I am happy for them. I am also happy if I can buy one for $250 and save $150 from a retail price.

Bottom line, it doesn't matter how they obtained the item. If they are selling at a fair price then I don't feel ripped off.

I don't troll the boards. I don't jump over a guy when he is being a prick with a really high price. I don't find a good deal on the boards and then try to resell it back to the same people that informed me about it. That is wrong. But for those of us that sell items in the Buy and Sell, face it, we are here to profit from it. As I said before, if you don't want to profit, then throw your items out.

[laptop-tech]

<sigh> I changed my sig, so nobody should be confused now.


LOL...nice sig.......


If that's the case, you're a business, and you should be paying Derek ad fees. :twisted:


not really a bad idea at all...I wouldn't mind, but not sure if it would be worth...

thing is : selling on Ebay costs me money, but it's almost guaranteed to sell...listing here is free and almost impossible to sell, even if at half of Ebay final price...


I dont mean to be rude, but the reality is like "Pyro" said.... you offer an item that sells normally (as an used item, in forums or Ebay or Yahoo auctions...etc...) for 400.00, then you get lots of PM's saying "come on - nobody will pay you more than 75.00 bucks for it..."

At the same time, it's listed on Ebay, the current bid is 350.00 and last week an identical item sold for 425.00.........

I've learned my lesson here... if you want to sell it for 500.00, ask 575.00.....if you ask 50.00 someone will offer 35.00 for it.:eek:

By the way, this is NOT personal...I'm replying to JAC just to give my point of view, but sure everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion.

[JAC]

I dont mean to be rude, but the reality is like "Pyro" said.... you offer an item that sells normally (as an used item, in forums or Ebay or Yahoo auctions...etc...) for 400.00, then you get lots of PM's saying "come on - nobody will pay you more than 75.00 bucks for it..."

At the same time, it's listed on Ebay, the current bid is 350.00 and last week an identical item sold for 425.00.........

I've learned my lesson here... if you want to sell it for 500.00, ask 575.00.....if you ask 50.00 someone will offer 35.00 for it.:eek:
Yeah, I hear ya. I'm selling a sound card right now, some guy put in a bid less than I was willing to accept. I declined and pointed out the prices that the item is selling for new. He replies that he's going to get one from ebay for $10 USD (completely missing the point that he'll pay $24 USD for shipping.)

Then he sends me another PM asking for a comparison between my card and an Audigy 2. What a choad.

[Gee]

There are a lot of people that think items should be priced below their real value. I just ignore these people. They are the lowballers. However, if they can show me an advertised price that is lower, I would be more than happy to adjust my price.

eBay has several million patrons. Red Flag is a local community forum. That is the difference. I prefer the local community over eBay. That is why I sell here. If I don't get my asking price, I move on. I will adjust my price according to fair market value.

If someone lowballs you on a notebook. Move on. All you need is one person willing to pay a fair price.

[tritium4ever]

I just totally ignore lowballers altogether. It's funny to watch them sending multiple PMs or emails wondering why I'm not responding. :lol:

[dogbolter]

when they say no lowballers what does that mean?

My Grandpa, when he gets out of the shower... :razz: