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Bank of Montreal: 5-Year Fixed Rate Mortgage at 2.99% And 10-Year Fixed Rate Mortgage at 3.99%

BMO: 5-Year Fixed Mortgage Rate at 2.99%
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BMO's record-low 2.99% 5-year fixed rate mortgage is back! If you missed out last time, here's your chance to lock in the lowest 5-year rate from a major bank in Canadian history! Thanks forum poster mwun for the heads up!

The prepayment limitations are no different than what was stipulated last time when the offer was introduced in January: you're allowed 10+10 prepayment privileges and you're allowed to repay your mortgage in full before maturity as long as your property is sold to an unrelated purchaser at fair market value or your mortgage is refinanced into another BMO mortgage product.

If you want a little more prepayment flexibility, BMO also offers a 10-year fixed rate mortgage at 3.99% in which you can pay off your mortgage without restriction in the final 5 years of the term, however, prepayment charges will apply.

The deadline to apply for the 5-year and 10-year low rate closed mortgage is March 28. Learn more about these limited time offers at BMO.com or explore more mortgage options using our RedFlagDeals.com mortgage rate comparison tool.

Source: mwun via the Hot Deals Forum
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    • daveybuoy
    • I heard about that. They've tied their own record.

      I also caught a blurb on the radio that someone is offering 3.98 on a ten year fixed starting today too!

      Depending on the restrictions, that is damn tempting for shelter in a rate storm...

      Although if you believe that the Bank of Canada and the commercial banks are in bed together (which I do) it also indicated that prime will stay roughly where it is for the next decade or they'd have to eat it on their bond investments, so the savings on a variable over that term on current rates versus the fixed would be huge at today's prices.

      Who likes to gamble? My broker said stay variable.

      I did.

      I saw an ad on Metro and Globe and Mail, BMO brings back 5-year 2.99% mortgage, until Mar 28th.
      As usual, make sure you read the fine prints.

      http://www.bmo.com/home/personal/ban...022_ad1e_Ehp_1
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    • Seifer
    • I heard about that. They've tied their own record.

      I also caught a blurb on the radio that someone is offering 3.98 on a ten year fixed starting today too!

      Depending on the restrictions, that is damn tempting for shelter in a rate storm...

      Although if you believe that the Bank of Canada and the commercial banks are in bed together (which I do) it also indicated that prime will stay roughly where it is for the next decade or they'd have to eat it on their bond investments, so the savings on a variable over that term on current rates versus the fixed would be huge at today's prices.

      Who likes to gamble? My broker said stay variable.

      I did.
      ING Direct offer a 3.99% for 10 years.
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    • gnuman
    • A decade is a bit long for the govt to keep rates that low. Maybe another 4 years it will be. Sometimes I wonder if I should've done the 10yr 3.99% but I'll take my chances on the 5yr 2.99 which I currently have with BMO.
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    • tonyford
    • locked into a 10 year at 3.89 about 2 months ago, pretty happy about it
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    • baymoe
    • Darn. I just signed up for a 4-year at 2.99%.
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    • mwun
    • Just realized that BMO also have 10-year 3.99% option too, matching ING Direct
      Personally, but 10-year seems too long for me.'
      Also, I was debating whether going for variable or fixed, the best 5-year variable I can find is P-0.35% (i.e. 2.65, with P= 3%) at HSBC. The catch is you have to maintain a $20,000 asset (can be a combo of chequing, saving, TFSA, RRSP, etc) with HSBC or else the rate will bounce back up. They also offer P-0.4%, but the catch is even worse, which is maintain a $100,000 asset.
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    • stevezed
    • Darn. I just signed up for a 4-year at 2.99%.
      I signed the same and was extremely pleased with it...then less than 2 weeks later BMO rolled out their 2.99% 5-year and I was cursing up a storm.
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    • BinaryJay
    • This summer is going to be crazy for real estate in Toronto and Vancouver. Smallish 3 bedroom across the street from mine just sold for something like 960. Another house in the neighborhood has an R8 parked outside, I figure the folks moving into the neighborhood aren't doing too badly for themselves. :P

      But on topic, I am happy staying with my variable at prime minus .9 at least for the next few years. It's gambling either way but no matter which way you decide to go you can't really go too wrong right now. But please, don't budget what is affordable to your family when buying a house based on rates staying where they are. I hope the lenders are qualifying people based on rates that are at a couple percent higher than they are right now.
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    • raspeed
    • I never understand why people "max out" their budgets.

      If you qualify for a $500k home, buy a $350k one, not a $500k one.

      Foolish is .. but I guess that is why the world is in the mess it is in.
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    • canehdianman
    • I never understand why people "max out" their budgets.

      If you qualify for a $500k home, buy a $350k one, not a $500k one.

      Foolish is .. but I guess that is why the world is in the mess it is in.
      People max out their budgets because that's the only way most of them can afford to buy a home in the first place right now.

      Average salary of 40k doesn't make for much purchasing power.

      In the past we were told to aim for 3x annual income for a mortgage. The average in some parts of the country is now almost 10x. Crazy.
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    • stuntman
    • People max out their budgets because that's the only way most of them can afford to buy a home in the first place right now.

      Average salary of 40k doesn't make for much purchasing power.
      He is talking about a higher income bracket.

      The average in some parts of the country is now almost 10x. Crazy.
      I have serious doubt that you can you back that statement up AND are in fact talking out of your butt.
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    • stuntman
    • 3% for 5 years is one thing....4% for 10?
      Someone knows something the common people don't know.....
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    • james_8970
    • He is talking about a higher income bracket.


      I have serious doubt that you can you back that statement up AND are in fact talking out of your butt.
      Take a look at Vancouver and Toronto condo rates. There are serious concerns in these areas. The guy was obviously over exaggerating, but I doubt he's that far off. If the federal government doesn't tighten the way people borrow on housing, we are going to be facing a bubble. As it stands I don't think people should be able to buy a house without a 20% down payment and 20 year amortization periods should be the max.
      James
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    • Bazooka Joe
    • 3% for 5 years is one thing....4% for 10?
      Someone knows something the common people don't know.....
      I would think there are as many things that the average consumer doesn't know as the bankers don't know.

      The ones responsible for these rates are obviously banking heavily on the idea that the exposure the bond markets would face by rising interest rates would be more damaging to the economy overall than the increase in rates would be. That being said, I can't see why the BoC could care less about the bond markets...

      As time progresses, it's difficult to say which is the greater risk. The average financial guru once thought the CDO's, Ponzi schemes, BreX, Nortel, and US housing were guarantees.

      At some point, rates will be higher than these rates they are offering. But if the rate stays below it for longer than it goes above it (simplified example - I know), the lenders can come out ahead with these rates.

      Personally, I'm very, very interested in locking in for 10 years at 4%. The only think slowing me down is the thought that if/when we have another child we'd like a bigger house... if we go that route, it's definitely better to stay floating... but then will we still be able to lock in at these rates in 2 years? Decisions, decisions.
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    • stuntman
    • Take a look at Vancouver and Toronto condo rates. There are serious concerns in these areas. The guy was obviously over exaggerating, but I doubt he's that far off. If the federal government doesn't tighten the way people borrow on housing, we are going to be facing a bubble. As it stands I don't think people should be able to buy a house without a 20% down payment and 20 year amortization periods should be the max.
      James
      He is faaaar off.
      Being from Toronto I know that the condo market is not as overpriced as is being stated......Vancouver income to price ratio is far higher.

      At 10x the yearly income it would mean about 40% of a persons salary (pre tax) goes towards interest payments....another 25% goes to tax (?) That leaves 35% for living (and further taxing).
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    • ejeffrey
    • I have serious doubt that you can you back that statement up AND are in fact talking out of your butt.
      This study lists Vancouver's price to income ratio at 10.6x:
      http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

      It defines price to income ratio as:
      median house price divided by gross annual median household income
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    • stuntman
    • Take a look at Vancouver and Toronto condo rates. There are serious concerns in these areas. The guy was obviously over exaggerating, but I doubt he's that far off. If the federal government doesn't tighten the way people borrow on housing, we are going to be facing a bubble. As it stands I don't think people should be able to buy a house without a 20% down payment and 20 year amortization periods should be the max.
      James
      What are you going on about? Where do you get your information?
      In 2011 the average sales price of condos in Toronto was about $400K according to MLS: link
      I wish I could find a better link for you.

      So from what you are saying the average income of families buying these condos in Toronto is around $40K? LOL you 2 have no clue. Would a family with a total income of 40K qualify for a 380K mortgage (assuming 5% down)?

      From knowledge of friends and family: for $380K I think the banks are looking at about 100K sustained income.

      I don't know if there is a survey that relates the household income to purchase price but if there is how about looking it up an sharing.....otherwise you and Mr times 10 are talking out of your butts.
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    • stuntman
    • This study lists Vancouver's price to income ratio at 10.6x:
      http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

      It defines price to income ratio as:
      median house price divided by gross annual median household income
      Ok....glad you looked up a paper of facts. However, it is not relating the household incomes of those that are buying to the price of the houses they are buying. It is a study of how affordable houses are and not relating household income to those that are buying the houses.

      median household income is that form all house holds: renting, already own from a low market, those that are buying. everyone

      median house price...the cost of buying a house.

      10.6 for Vancouver...the most ridiculous market in canada hard to get a mortgage to buy a house unless you make a lot of money.
      5.5 in Toronto

      Am I reading it wrong?
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    • Jayhoo
    • So to shift gears slightly away from arguing the mechanics of the deal, I got a rate "locked in" at P-.35 @ 5yrs variable for a home that i'm going to take posession of in the coming months.
      The 2.99% at 5yrs fixed seems quite attractive, given that it'd only take 1-2 interest rate hikes to hit the 3% mark. Are there any significant pitfalls to opting for the fixed 2.99% instead?

      Of the reasons given on a few articles I've read about this deal, it seems like these are the fine-print details people are complaining about:
      * Smaller pre-payments (up to 10% of total value can be paid in addition to regular payments)
      * Can't leave before 5-year term matures
      * Requiring a 25% downpayment
      * Supposedly super-long amortization periods (40yrs?)
      * This product is apparently "no frills"... Not sure if this is an official product designation or just a derrogatory term used by competitors, and how it differs from the others?
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    • SpicYMchaggis
    • Take a look at Vancouver and Toronto condo rates. There are serious concerns in these areas. The guy was obviously over exaggerating, but I doubt he's that far off. If the federal government doesn't tighten the way people borrow on housing, we are going to be facing a bubble. As it stands I don't think people should be able to buy a house without a 20% down payment and 20 year amortization periods should be the max.
      James
      Do you realize what would happen if the government implemented those lending condition? The whole housing market would collapse as we know it. Nobody except for the filthy rich and people in there 40s would be able to purchase a house.

      Also do you realize that if you purchase a house with a down payment of less than 20% you have to go through CMHC which calculates your amount of pre-approval amount at 5.5% (or somewhere around there).

      Lending requirements are tight enough here IMO as we were largely able to avoid a major housing collapse during the recession but even then we have taken steps to eliminate further problems by eliminating the 35 year & 40 Year ammortization.

      The only thing real problem is that interest rates have been so low for so long that it could create problems if they are forced to raise them by a large amount. But generally speaking if interest raises rise the economy is doing very well and people's wages would have increased.

      If you can get a 2.99% fixed, this is about as good as you are going to get. I'd usually recommend a variable interest rate but with a fixed rate so low the risk you take with a variable rate isn't worth it IMO.
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    • Mayday Malone
    • For those concenred about locking into a 10 yr rate and wanting to move, there are institutions who have "portable" mortgages. This means you can port the mtge/terms up to 10 years with another home(s) For example when I called Monster Mortgage to inquire about 10 yr rates he advised that MCAP (http://residential.mcap.com/customers/refinance#porting) was offering 3.89 for 10 yrs with portability. As some noted, there may be less appealing factors for this i.e. lower pre-pay for example. But worth looking into. Also, MonsterMtg broker advised National Bank was also offering 3.99%/10yrs portable.
      Happy Hunting
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    • gheart008
    • Ok....glad you looked up a paper of facts. However, it is not relating the household incomes of those that are buying to the price of the houses they are buying. It is a study of how affordable houses are and not relating household income to those that are buying the houses.

      median household income is that form all house holds: renting, already own from a low market, those that are buying. everyone

      median house price...the cost of buying a house.

      10.6 for Vancouver...the most ridiculous market in canada hard to get a mortgage to buy a house unless you make a lot of money.
      5.5 in Toronto

      Am I reading it wrong?
      Sounds right for Vancouver, considering Vancouver is officially the most expensive city in the entire North America now, beating out even LA and NY. And I wouldn't say that Vancouver's average household income is up there either.

      And considering how hot the market still is in Vancouver where people are purchasing with no subjects due to the intense competition of multiple offers, I don't see it going down any time soon, only further up.
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    • ccyk
    • are BMO that dumb or what? why borrow out @2.99% to take risk when they can do share buyback @4.80% of their own BMO stock with 0 risk?
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    • sassysue
    • some broker in cambridge is offering 3.50% for 10 years seriously house rates has gone done alot!

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